https://cohostpodcasting.com <![CDATA[The Space In Between Podcast ]]> This podcast is for listeners who are fed up with the hyperpolarized nature of the world today and who crave spaces where strong convictions are honored and practical ideas for bridging divides is discussed in constructive, enlightening and delightful ways.  We explore how to lead well, stay grounded, and navigate current events that impact culture and society.  My guests are some of the world's most interesting and curious leaders, innovators and change makers, and my solo episodes drop practical wisdom on how to transform polarization into connection, innovation, and impact. 


If you like spirited debate and diving deep into complex, sometimes controversial topics that impact our families, communities and the world - then this podcast is for you.  

Follow TSIB podcast on Apple and Spotify, and the podcast website: www.spacebetweenpodcast.com

Follow Leigh on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leigh-morgan-speaks/


Connect with me on X: https://x.com/SpaceBtwnPod

Have a question? Send me a message: https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/contact/


]]> This podcast is for listeners who are fed up with the hyperpolarized nature of the world today and who crave spaces where strong convictions are honored and practical ideas for bridging divides is discussed in constructive, enlightening and delightful ways.  We explore how to lead well, stay grounded, and navigate current events that impact culture and society.  My guests are some of the world's most interesting and curious leaders, innovators and change makers, and my solo episodes drop practical wisdom on how to transform polarization into connection, innovation, and impact. 


If you like spirited debate and diving deep into complex, sometimes controversial topics that impact our families, communities and the world - then this podcast is for you.  

Follow TSIB podcast on Apple and Spotify, and the podcast website: www.spacebetweenpodcast.com

Follow Leigh on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/leigh-morgan-speaks/


Connect with me on X: https://x.com/SpaceBtwnPod

Have a question? Send me a message: https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/contact/


]]> en 23c51ca0-facd-4713-b1fe-f4f354d990ab Thu, 26 Mar 2026 17:38:15 -0700 Sat, 13 Jun 2026 23:46:50 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ <![CDATA[The Space In Between Podcast ]]> https://files.cohostpodcasting.com/quill-file-prod/7d408271-1f41-4337-9cdd-ac45711d73e7/shows/23c51ca0-facd-4713-b1fe-f4f354d990ab/cover-art/original_a9e1e847ddce54f356d4c3b9381ac839.jpg https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ episodic false https://feeds.cohostpodcasting.com/1piZDyev leigh@imaginal-leadership.com <![CDATA[Sacred Instructions - with Sherri Mitchell ]]> There are conversations that do more than inform us, they recalibrate us. This episode with Sherri Mitchell (Weh’na Ha’mu Kwasset) is that kind of conversation: a profound, clear-eyed, and ultimately hopeful exploration of how we stay grounded as leaders and community members in an often dehumanizing time. Sherri calls us to cultivatie connection, accountability, deep humanity, and integrity with ourselves, one another and the living Earth we call home.


Sherri— Indigenous attorney, activist, wisdom keeper, teacher, and author of Sacred Instructions: Indigenous Wisdom for Living Spirit-Based Change — joins host Leigh Morgan for a powerful conversation about what it means to move through this moment without hardening, numbing out, or giving up. Together, Sherri and Leigh examine the deeper spiritual and relational crises underneath today’s political division, climate anxiety, violence, social fragmentation, and institutional collapse — while centering a more optimistic path forward rooted in interdependence, mutual care, accountability, and reconnection.


At the heart of this conversation is a powerful invitation: to move from separation toward interdependence. Sherri names the illusion of separation as one of the great spiritual wounds of our time — the belief that we are somehow separate from one another, from the Earth, and from the consequences of our choices. In its place, she offers a vision rooted in Indigenous wisdom: right relationship, emotional maturity, accountability, and reconnection with the living world.


This episode is not about bypassing the pain of this moment. It is about learning how to move through it with greater courage, humility, and responsibility. Sherri helps us understand that we are living through a painful transition — hospicing an old paternalistic paradigm while trying to midwife something more life-giving, collaborative, and humane. That transition requires grief. It requires accountability. And it requires us to grow up — individually, collectively, spiritually, and as a species.


In this episode, we explore:


  • The spiritual work of reconnection — how the illusion of separation fuels division, dehumanization, ecological harm, and the loss of right relationship.
  • The shift from independence to interdependence — why mutual care, shared responsibility, cooperation, and accountability are essential for a healthier future.
  • Grief as part of transformation — what it means to hospice an old paradigm while midwifing something more humane, life-giving, and spiritually mature.
  • The sacred leadership we need now — how humility, emotional maturity, accountability, maternal wisdom, and grounded connection can help us lead without hardening or numbing out.


About Sherri Mitchell

Sherri is a graduate of the University of Arizona’s Rogers College of Law, specializing in Indigenous Peoples Law and Policy. She is an alumna of the American Indian Ambassador Program and the Udall Native American Congressional Internship Program.. In addition to her book, Sacred Instructions, she is also a contributor to eleven anthologies, including the bestseller All We Can Save: Truth, Courage, and Solutions for the Climate Crisis, and Resetting Our Future: Empowering Climate Action in the United States. Sherri is also the founding Director of the Land Peace Foundation, an organization dedicated to the preservation of Indigenous rights and the protection of the Indigenous way of life. She serves as a Trustee for the American Indian Institute, as an Advisory Council member for Nia Tero’s Indigenous Land Guardianship Program, and as a board member for the Post Carbon Institute. Check out her website and order her book: https://www.sacredinstructions.


Check out Sherri's substack: https://substack.com/@sherrimitchellwehnahamukwasset


Check out the full show notes at http://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/sacred-instructions-sherri-mitchell/

 



]]> Wed, 10 Jun 2026 08:43:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 52:45 There are conversations that do more than inform us, they recalibrate us. This episode with Sherri Mitchell (Weh’na Ha’mu Kwasset) is that kind of conversation: a profound, clear-eyed, and ultimately hopeful exploration of how we stay grounded as leaders and community members in an often dehumanizing time. Sherri calls us to cultivatie connection, accountability, deep humanity, and integrity with ourselves, one another and the living Earth we call home.


Sherri— Indigenous attorney, activist, wisdom keeper, teacher, and author of Sacred Instructions: Indigenous Wisdom for Living Spirit-Based Change — joins host Leigh Morgan for a powerful conversation about what it means to move through this moment without hardening, numbing out, or giving up. Together, Sherri and Leigh examine the deeper spiritual and relational crises underneath today’s political division, climate anxiety, violence, social fragmentation, and institutional collapse — while centering a more optimistic path forward rooted in interdependence, mutual care, accountability, and reconnection.


At the heart of this conversation is a powerful invitation: to move from separation toward interdependence. Sherri names the illusion of separation as one of the great spiritual wounds of our time — the belief that we are somehow separate from one another, from the Earth, and from the consequences of our choices. In its place, she offers a vision rooted in Indigenous wisdom: right relationship, emotional maturity, accountability, and reconnection with the living world.


This episode is not about bypassing the pain of this moment. It is about learning how to move through it with greater courage, humility, and responsibility. Sherri helps us understand that we are living through a painful transition — hospicing an old paternalistic paradigm while trying to midwife something more life-giving, collaborative, and humane. That transition requires grief. It requires accountability. And it requires us to grow up — individually, collectively, spiritually, and as a species.


In this episode, we explore:


  • The spiritual work of reconnection — how the illusion of separation fuels division, dehumanization, ecological harm, and the loss of right relationship.
  • The shift from independence to interdependence — why mutual care, shared responsibility, cooperation, and accountability are essential for a healthier future.
  • Grief as part of transformation — what it means to hospice an old paradigm while midwifing something more humane, life-giving, and spiritually mature.
  • The sacred leadership we need now — how humility, emotional maturity, accountability, maternal wisdom, and grounded connection can help us lead without hardening or numbing out.


About Sherri Mitchell

Sherri is a graduate of the University of Arizona’s Rogers College of Law, specializing in Indigenous Peoples Law and Policy. She is an alumna of the American Indian Ambassador Program and the Udall Native American Congressional Internship Program.. In addition to her book, Sacred Instructions, she is also a contributor to eleven anthologies, including the bestseller All We Can Save: Truth, Courage, and Solutions for the Climate Crisis, and Resetting Our Future: Empowering Climate Action in the United States. Sherri is also the founding Director of the Land Peace Foundation, an organization dedicated to the preservation of Indigenous rights and the protection of the Indigenous way of life. She serves as a Trustee for the American Indian Institute, as an Advisory Council member for Nia Tero’s Indigenous Land Guardianship Program, and as a board member for the Post Carbon Institute. Check out her website and order her book: https://www.sacredinstructions.


Check out Sherri's substack: https://substack.com/@sherrimitchellwehnahamukwasset


Check out the full show notes at http://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/sacred-instructions-sherri-mitchell/

 



]]> There are conversations that do more than inform us, they recalibrate us. This episode with Sherri Mitchell (Weh’na Ha’mu Kwasset) is that kind of conversation: a profound, clear-eyed, and ultimately hopeful exploration of how we stay grounded as leaders and community members in an often dehumanizing time. Sherri calls us to cultivatie connection, accountability, deep humanity, and integrity with ourselves, one another and the living Earth we call home.


Sherri— Indigenous attorney, activist, wisdom keeper, teacher, and author of Sacred Instructions: Indigenous Wisdom for Living Spirit-Based Change — joins host Leigh Morgan for a powerful conversation about what it means to move through this moment without hardening, numbing out, or giving up. Together, Sherri and Leigh examine the deeper spiritual and relational crises underneath today’s political division, climate anxiety, violence, social fragmentation, and institutional collapse — while centering a more optimistic path forward rooted in interdependence, mutual care, accountability, and reconnection.


At the heart of this conversation is a powerful invitation: to move from separation toward interdependence. Sherri names the illusion of separation as one of the great spiritual wounds of our time — the belief that we are somehow separate from one another, from the Earth, and from the consequences of our choices. In its place, she offers a vision rooted in Indigenous wisdom: right relationship, emotional maturity, accountability, and reconnection with the living world.


This episode is not about bypassing the pain of this moment. It is about learning how to move through it with greater courage, humility, and responsibility. Sherri helps us understand that we are living through a painful transition — hospicing an old paternalistic paradigm while trying to midwife something more life-giving, collaborative, and humane. That transition requires grief. It requires accountability. And it requires us to grow up — individually, collectively, spiritually, and as a species.


In this episode, we explore:


  • The spiritual work of reconnection — how the illusion of separation fuels division, dehumanization, ecological harm, and the loss of right relationship.
  • The shift from independence to interdependence — why mutual care, shared responsibility, cooperation, and accountability are essential for a healthier future.
  • Grief as part of transformation — what it means to hospice an old paradigm while midwifing something more humane, life-giving, and spiritually mature.
  • The sacred leadership we need now — how humility, emotional maturity, accountability, maternal wisdom, and grounded connection can help us lead without hardening or numbing out.


About Sherri Mitchell

Sherri is a graduate of the University of Arizona’s Rogers College of Law, specializing in Indigenous Peoples Law and Policy. She is an alumna of the American Indian Ambassador Program and the Udall Native American Congressional Internship Program.. In addition to her book, Sacred Instructions, she is also a contributor to eleven anthologies, including the bestseller All We Can Save: Truth, Courage, and Solutions for the Climate Crisis, and Resetting Our Future: Empowering Climate Action in the United States. Sherri is also the founding Director of the Land Peace Foundation, an organization dedicated to the preservation of Indigenous rights and the protection of the Indigenous way of life. She serves as a Trustee for the American Indian Institute, as an Advisory Council member for Nia Tero’s Indigenous Land Guardianship Program, and as a board member for the Post Carbon Institute. Check out her website and order her book: https://www.sacredinstructions.


Check out Sherri's substack: https://substack.com/@sherrimitchellwehnahamukwasset


Check out the full show notes at http://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/sacred-instructions-sherri-mitchell/

 



]]> false full 47 2 <![CDATA[Leigh’s Leadership Lessons: Remember, Reframe, Reclaim - A New Way to Lead Through Division and Uncertainty]]> In a polarized world, it’s become easy to assume that the other side is broken, deficient, dangerous, or beyond repair; and if we are honest, sometimes it really feels this way. But if this is our dominant mindset, creativity, trust, accountability, and connection can be eclipsed by pessimism about what 'could be'. In this episode, host Leigh Morgan explores a different starting place which she calls the Three R's—Remember, Reframe, Reclaim — a novel framework for staying grounded, high agency, and deeply human in times marked by division, distrust, and uncertainty.


Drawing from personal reflection, leadership experience, and lessons from systems change work, Leigh examines how many of us have been conditioned into a “fix-it” orientation — constantly diagnosing what’s wrong in ourselves, our teams, institutions, and society. While problem-solving remains essential, Leigh asks whether polarized times require something more relational, expansive, and generative alongside it.


Through stories from leading in some of the world's most innovative organizations, Leigh explores how the Three R’s can operate at multiple levels — personally, relationally, organizationally, and systemically. The Three R's:


Remember. Resist reducing ourselves or others to stereotypes, failures, or political identities.

Reframe. Move beyond “What’s broken?” toward “What’s already working and what’s possible?”

Reclaim. Stay intentional and high agency instead of being pulled into reactivity, fear, and outrage.


This episode is not about abandoning accountability, or jettisoning problem solving approaches to hard challenges. It’s about exploring how we remain thoughtful, connected, and effective without losing ourselves to polarization. Key take aways include:


  • Why a constant “fix-it” mindset can unintentionally deepen fear and defensiveness in low-trust environments
  • The relational cost of reducing people to sides, stereotypes, and moral categories
  • How leadership changes when we begin from capability and possibility instead of deficiency
  • What asset-based community development teaches us about strengths, latent capacity, and systems change
  • How trust-based philanthropy at Nia Tero flipped the script on traditional, 'respond to us' working practices
  • Why reclaiming agency may be one of the most important leadership practices in polarized times
  • How to stay politically engaged and accountable -- without mirroring the same harmful rhetoric we oppose -- can be achieved


Remember

A shift away from immediately reducing ourselves or others to deficiency, failure, or political identity — and toward remembering our humanity, capability, and creative abilities.


Reframe

Moving beyond “What’s broken?” toward broader questions like:

  • What’s already working?
  • What strengths or capacities already exist?
  • What possibilities become visible when fear and reactivity aren’t driving the frame?


Reclaim

Asserting, in moments where fear, outrage, or polarization tempts us to be reactive, our agency to make choices regardless of circumstance.


Reflection Questions

  • Where am I operating primarily from deficiency or fear?
  • What assumptions am I making about what — or who — is “broken”?
  • What strengths, capacities, or possibilities might I be overlooking?
  • What is actually mine to do in this moment?
  • How do I stay engaged and accountable without losing my own center?


If this episode resonates with you, share it with someone you care about — someone you want to be in deeper conversation with.

And if you haven’t already, follow The Space In Between and leave a review.


Check out TSIB website at http://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/remember-reframe-reclaim/



]]> Wed, 27 May 2026 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 15:11 In a polarized world, it’s become easy to assume that the other side is broken, deficient, dangerous, or beyond repair; and if we are honest, sometimes it really feels this way. But if this is our dominant mindset, creativity, trust, accountability, and connection can be eclipsed by pessimism about what 'could be'. In this episode, host Leigh Morgan explores a different starting place which she calls the Three R's—Remember, Reframe, Reclaim — a novel framework for staying grounded, high agency, and deeply human in times marked by division, distrust, and uncertainty.


Drawing from personal reflection, leadership experience, and lessons from systems change work, Leigh examines how many of us have been conditioned into a “fix-it” orientation — constantly diagnosing what’s wrong in ourselves, our teams, institutions, and society. While problem-solving remains essential, Leigh asks whether polarized times require something more relational, expansive, and generative alongside it.


Through stories from leading in some of the world's most innovative organizations, Leigh explores how the Three R’s can operate at multiple levels — personally, relationally, organizationally, and systemically. The Three R's:


Remember. Resist reducing ourselves or others to stereotypes, failures, or political identities.

Reframe. Move beyond “What’s broken?” toward “What’s already working and what’s possible?”

Reclaim. Stay intentional and high agency instead of being pulled into reactivity, fear, and outrage.


This episode is not about abandoning accountability, or jettisoning problem solving approaches to hard challenges. It’s about exploring how we remain thoughtful, connected, and effective without losing ourselves to polarization. Key take aways include:


  • Why a constant “fix-it” mindset can unintentionally deepen fear and defensiveness in low-trust environments
  • The relational cost of reducing people to sides, stereotypes, and moral categories
  • How leadership changes when we begin from capability and possibility instead of deficiency
  • What asset-based community development teaches us about strengths, latent capacity, and systems change
  • How trust-based philanthropy at Nia Tero flipped the script on traditional, 'respond to us' working practices
  • Why reclaiming agency may be one of the most important leadership practices in polarized times
  • How to stay politically engaged and accountable -- without mirroring the same harmful rhetoric we oppose -- can be achieved


Remember

A shift away from immediately reducing ourselves or others to deficiency, failure, or political identity — and toward remembering our humanity, capability, and creative abilities.


Reframe

Moving beyond “What’s broken?” toward broader questions like:

  • What’s already working?
  • What strengths or capacities already exist?
  • What possibilities become visible when fear and reactivity aren’t driving the frame?


Reclaim

Asserting, in moments where fear, outrage, or polarization tempts us to be reactive, our agency to make choices regardless of circumstance.


Reflection Questions

  • Where am I operating primarily from deficiency or fear?
  • What assumptions am I making about what — or who — is “broken”?
  • What strengths, capacities, or possibilities might I be overlooking?
  • What is actually mine to do in this moment?
  • How do I stay engaged and accountable without losing my own center?


If this episode resonates with you, share it with someone you care about — someone you want to be in deeper conversation with.

And if you haven’t already, follow The Space In Between and leave a review.


Check out TSIB website at http://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/remember-reframe-reclaim/



]]> In a polarized world, it’s become easy to assume that the other side is broken, deficient, dangerous, or beyond repair; and if we are honest, sometimes it really feels this way. But if this is our dominant mindset, creativity, trust, accountability, and connection can be eclipsed by pessimism about what 'could be'. In this episode, host Leigh Morgan explores a different starting place which she calls the Three R's—Remember, Reframe, Reclaim — a novel framework for staying grounded, high agency, and deeply human in times marked by division, distrust, and uncertainty.


Drawing from personal reflection, leadership experience, and lessons from systems change work, Leigh examines how many of us have been conditioned into a “fix-it” orientation — constantly diagnosing what’s wrong in ourselves, our teams, institutions, and society. While problem-solving remains essential, Leigh asks whether polarized times require something more relational, expansive, and generative alongside it.


Through stories from leading in some of the world's most innovative organizations, Leigh explores how the Three R’s can operate at multiple levels — personally, relationally, organizationally, and systemically. The Three R's:


Remember. Resist reducing ourselves or others to stereotypes, failures, or political identities.

Reframe. Move beyond “What’s broken?” toward “What’s already working and what’s possible?”

Reclaim. Stay intentional and high agency instead of being pulled into reactivity, fear, and outrage.


This episode is not about abandoning accountability, or jettisoning problem solving approaches to hard challenges. It’s about exploring how we remain thoughtful, connected, and effective without losing ourselves to polarization. Key take aways include:


  • Why a constant “fix-it” mindset can unintentionally deepen fear and defensiveness in low-trust environments
  • The relational cost of reducing people to sides, stereotypes, and moral categories
  • How leadership changes when we begin from capability and possibility instead of deficiency
  • What asset-based community development teaches us about strengths, latent capacity, and systems change
  • How trust-based philanthropy at Nia Tero flipped the script on traditional, 'respond to us' working practices
  • Why reclaiming agency may be one of the most important leadership practices in polarized times
  • How to stay politically engaged and accountable -- without mirroring the same harmful rhetoric we oppose -- can be achieved


Remember

A shift away from immediately reducing ourselves or others to deficiency, failure, or political identity — and toward remembering our humanity, capability, and creative abilities.


Reframe

Moving beyond “What’s broken?” toward broader questions like:

  • What’s already working?
  • What strengths or capacities already exist?
  • What possibilities become visible when fear and reactivity aren’t driving the frame?


Reclaim

Asserting, in moments where fear, outrage, or polarization tempts us to be reactive, our agency to make choices regardless of circumstance.


Reflection Questions

  • Where am I operating primarily from deficiency or fear?
  • What assumptions am I making about what — or who — is “broken”?
  • What strengths, capacities, or possibilities might I be overlooking?
  • What is actually mine to do in this moment?
  • How do I stay engaged and accountable without losing my own center?


If this episode resonates with you, share it with someone you care about — someone you want to be in deeper conversation with.

And if you haven’t already, follow The Space In Between and leave a review.


Check out TSIB website at http://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/remember-reframe-reclaim/



]]> false full 46 2 <![CDATA[Justice, Mercy, and a Fairness - with Georgia Judge Brandon Bryson]]> What does it look like to carry authority with humility? In this thoughtful and deeply human conversation, Leigh Morgan sits down with Bartow County, Georgia’s Chief Magistrate Judge Brandon Bryson — whose life and leadership have been shaped by family, faith, service, and a profound respect for the people who enter his courtroom. Presiding over cases that touch every corner of community life has given Judge Bryson a grounded understanding of how easily making assumptions (including about ideology) can mask nuanced realities. And, a how important it is to lead with both curiosity and humanity. Together, they explore how we can all hold people accountable without losing sight of their dignity, why listening can change what we think we know, and how everyday encounters can become opportunities for fairness, and connection. As Judge Bryson notes “compassion doesn’t remove accountability. It helps us make better decisions.”


In this episode, Leigh and Judge Bryson explore:

  • How growing up in Cartersville shaped Brandon’s commitment to service
  • The values his parents modeled through hard work, tenderness, and sacrifice
  • Why magistrate court is often called “the people’s court”
  • What eviction cases, warrants, and small claims reveal about everyday struggle
  • The difference between judging a case and judging a person
  • How compassion and accountability can exist in the same courtroom
  • What he learned from the Presidential Leadership Scholars Program
  • Why listening for someone’s “why” can open up a different kind of conversation


Why this conversation matters

So many people are moving through the world carrying fear, stress, shame, or uncertainty that others may never see.

Judge Bryson’s courtroom gives him a front-row seat to those realities. People come before him facing the possibility of losing housing, income, freedom, or stability — and he has learned that even a brief moment of respect can stay with someone for years.


Learn More About this Episode

Check out the full show notes at www.https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/justice-mercy-judge-bryson/

Pease leave a review and pass this along to a friend!

]]> Wed, 13 May 2026 11:11:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 41:23 What does it look like to carry authority with humility? In this thoughtful and deeply human conversation, Leigh Morgan sits down with Bartow County, Georgia’s Chief Magistrate Judge Brandon Bryson — whose life and leadership have been shaped by family, faith, service, and a profound respect for the people who enter his courtroom. Presiding over cases that touch every corner of community life has given Judge Bryson a grounded understanding of how easily making assumptions (including about ideology) can mask nuanced realities. And, a how important it is to lead with both curiosity and humanity. Together, they explore how we can all hold people accountable without losing sight of their dignity, why listening can change what we think we know, and how everyday encounters can become opportunities for fairness, and connection. As Judge Bryson notes “compassion doesn’t remove accountability. It helps us make better decisions.”


In this episode, Leigh and Judge Bryson explore:

  • How growing up in Cartersville shaped Brandon’s commitment to service
  • The values his parents modeled through hard work, tenderness, and sacrifice
  • Why magistrate court is often called “the people’s court”
  • What eviction cases, warrants, and small claims reveal about everyday struggle
  • The difference between judging a case and judging a person
  • How compassion and accountability can exist in the same courtroom
  • What he learned from the Presidential Leadership Scholars Program
  • Why listening for someone’s “why” can open up a different kind of conversation


Why this conversation matters

So many people are moving through the world carrying fear, stress, shame, or uncertainty that others may never see.

Judge Bryson’s courtroom gives him a front-row seat to those realities. People come before him facing the possibility of losing housing, income, freedom, or stability — and he has learned that even a brief moment of respect can stay with someone for years.


Learn More About this Episode

Check out the full show notes at www.https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/justice-mercy-judge-bryson/

Pease leave a review and pass this along to a friend!

]]> What does it look like to carry authority with humility? In this thoughtful and deeply human conversation, Leigh Morgan sits down with Bartow County, Georgia’s Chief Magistrate Judge Brandon Bryson — whose life and leadership have been shaped by family, faith, service, and a profound respect for the people who enter his courtroom. Presiding over cases that touch every corner of community life has given Judge Bryson a grounded understanding of how easily making assumptions (including about ideology) can mask nuanced realities. And, a how important it is to lead with both curiosity and humanity. Together, they explore how we can all hold people accountable without losing sight of their dignity, why listening can change what we think we know, and how everyday encounters can become opportunities for fairness, and connection. As Judge Bryson notes “compassion doesn’t remove accountability. It helps us make better decisions.”


In this episode, Leigh and Judge Bryson explore:

  • How growing up in Cartersville shaped Brandon’s commitment to service
  • The values his parents modeled through hard work, tenderness, and sacrifice
  • Why magistrate court is often called “the people’s court”
  • What eviction cases, warrants, and small claims reveal about everyday struggle
  • The difference between judging a case and judging a person
  • How compassion and accountability can exist in the same courtroom
  • What he learned from the Presidential Leadership Scholars Program
  • Why listening for someone’s “why” can open up a different kind of conversation


Why this conversation matters

So many people are moving through the world carrying fear, stress, shame, or uncertainty that others may never see.

Judge Bryson’s courtroom gives him a front-row seat to those realities. People come before him facing the possibility of losing housing, income, freedom, or stability — and he has learned that even a brief moment of respect can stay with someone for years.


Learn More About this Episode

Check out the full show notes at www.https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/justice-mercy-judge-bryson/

Pease leave a review and pass this along to a friend!

]]> false full 45 2 <![CDATA[How Space Shapes Connection - with Elizabeth MacPherson-Hearn]]> What if the spaces you move through every day are quietly shaping your mood, your relationships—and even your sense of agency and hope? In this episode, Leigh sits down with renowned designer Elizabeth MacPherson-Hearn to explore the powerful idea that there is no such thing as a neutral space. Together, they unpack how the environments we inhabit influence how grounded, connected, and open we feel—especially in a time marked by division and uncertainty.


Through the lens of biophilia, Elizabeth offers both a deeper understanding and practical ways to transform any space—home, office, or community—into a place that restores calm, dignity, and human connection. In a world where so many feel unmoored, anxious, or disconnected, this conversation brings us back to something both ancient and accessible: our relationship to place.


Elizabeth defines biophilia as our innate, cellular-level need to connect with nature—and explains how it shows up in three powerful ways:

  • Direct connection (light, water, nature itself)
  • Indirect connection (materials, patterns, textures inspired by nature)
  • Spatial design (how spaces create safety, curiosity, and calm through elements like “prospect and refuge”)


Together, Leigh and Elizabeth explore how these principles aren’t just aesthetic—they’re deeply human. They influence our nervous systems, our ability to think clearly, and even our capacity to connect with one another. At a time when many of us spend 85–95% of our lives indoors, the question becomes: What if our spaces could actively support our wellbeing instead of depleting it?


Elizabeth shares stories from her work designing schools and public spaces—including how thoughtful design can transform how children learn, engage, and feel in their bodies. She also reflects on how even small choices—light, materials, patterns—can dramatically shift our experience of a space. Most importantly, this episode isn’t about perfect design or privilege. It’s about awareness and agency. Because as Elizabeth reminds us: When you walk into a space and it feels good—there’s a reason.


In This Episode, We Explore:

  • Why there is no such thing as a neutral space
  • The science and psychology behind biophilia
  • How design impacts stress, focus, and emotional wellbeing
  • The concept of “prospect and refuge”—and why you always want the booth
  • How patterns in nature (like fractals) calm the brain
  • Why modern life has disconnected us—and how to gently reconnect
  • Practical ways to bring grounding, beauty, and calm into your everyday spaces


A Few Questions to Carry With You:

  • What spaces in your life make you feel most like yourself?
  • Where do you feel calm, open, or connected—and why?
  • What small shift could you make to bring more light, texture, or nature into your day?


Why This Conversation Matters

At its core, this episode is about reclaiming a sense of agency in uncertain times. When the world feels loud, divided, or overwhelming, place becomes a quiet but powerful ally.

By tending to the spaces around us, we begin to steady ourselves within. And from that place—we’re better able to engage, connect, and lead with intention.


About Elizabeth MacPherson-Hearn

As a leader at the internationally acclaimed architecture firm Mithun, Elizabeth translates visionary thinking into grounded, human-centered spaces. She brings a keen awareness of sensory experience and how people move through daily life, seamlessly blending interior design with architecture to create environments that feel intuitive and connected from the moment you enter. Her deep knowledge of sustainable materials allows her to design spaces that create long-term value across both public and private sectors.


A strong listener with a background rooted in physiology, Elizabeth designs places that people don’t just use—but feel. Her work is guided by a deep understanding of biophilia—the innate, sensory connection between humans and the natural world—which she lectures on nationally.

]]> Wed, 29 Apr 2026 06:02:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 45:28 What if the spaces you move through every day are quietly shaping your mood, your relationships—and even your sense of agency and hope? In this episode, Leigh sits down with renowned designer Elizabeth MacPherson-Hearn to explore the powerful idea that there is no such thing as a neutral space. Together, they unpack how the environments we inhabit influence how grounded, connected, and open we feel—especially in a time marked by division and uncertainty.


Through the lens of biophilia, Elizabeth offers both a deeper understanding and practical ways to transform any space—home, office, or community—into a place that restores calm, dignity, and human connection. In a world where so many feel unmoored, anxious, or disconnected, this conversation brings us back to something both ancient and accessible: our relationship to place.


Elizabeth defines biophilia as our innate, cellular-level need to connect with nature—and explains how it shows up in three powerful ways:

  • Direct connection (light, water, nature itself)
  • Indirect connection (materials, patterns, textures inspired by nature)
  • Spatial design (how spaces create safety, curiosity, and calm through elements like “prospect and refuge”)


Together, Leigh and Elizabeth explore how these principles aren’t just aesthetic—they’re deeply human. They influence our nervous systems, our ability to think clearly, and even our capacity to connect with one another. At a time when many of us spend 85–95% of our lives indoors, the question becomes: What if our spaces could actively support our wellbeing instead of depleting it?


Elizabeth shares stories from her work designing schools and public spaces—including how thoughtful design can transform how children learn, engage, and feel in their bodies. She also reflects on how even small choices—light, materials, patterns—can dramatically shift our experience of a space. Most importantly, this episode isn’t about perfect design or privilege. It’s about awareness and agency. Because as Elizabeth reminds us: When you walk into a space and it feels good—there’s a reason.


In This Episode, We Explore:

  • Why there is no such thing as a neutral space
  • The science and psychology behind biophilia
  • How design impacts stress, focus, and emotional wellbeing
  • The concept of “prospect and refuge”—and why you always want the booth
  • How patterns in nature (like fractals) calm the brain
  • Why modern life has disconnected us—and how to gently reconnect
  • Practical ways to bring grounding, beauty, and calm into your everyday spaces


A Few Questions to Carry With You:

  • What spaces in your life make you feel most like yourself?
  • Where do you feel calm, open, or connected—and why?
  • What small shift could you make to bring more light, texture, or nature into your day?


Why This Conversation Matters

At its core, this episode is about reclaiming a sense of agency in uncertain times. When the world feels loud, divided, or overwhelming, place becomes a quiet but powerful ally.

By tending to the spaces around us, we begin to steady ourselves within. And from that place—we’re better able to engage, connect, and lead with intention.


About Elizabeth MacPherson-Hearn

As a leader at the internationally acclaimed architecture firm Mithun, Elizabeth translates visionary thinking into grounded, human-centered spaces. She brings a keen awareness of sensory experience and how people move through daily life, seamlessly blending interior design with architecture to create environments that feel intuitive and connected from the moment you enter. Her deep knowledge of sustainable materials allows her to design spaces that create long-term value across both public and private sectors.


A strong listener with a background rooted in physiology, Elizabeth designs places that people don’t just use—but feel. Her work is guided by a deep understanding of biophilia—the innate, sensory connection between humans and the natural world—which she lectures on nationally.

]]> What if the spaces you move through every day are quietly shaping your mood, your relationships—and even your sense of agency and hope? In this episode, Leigh sits down with renowned designer Elizabeth MacPherson-Hearn to explore the powerful idea that there is no such thing as a neutral space. Together, they unpack how the environments we inhabit influence how grounded, connected, and open we feel—especially in a time marked by division and uncertainty.


Through the lens of biophilia, Elizabeth offers both a deeper understanding and practical ways to transform any space—home, office, or community—into a place that restores calm, dignity, and human connection. In a world where so many feel unmoored, anxious, or disconnected, this conversation brings us back to something both ancient and accessible: our relationship to place.


Elizabeth defines biophilia as our innate, cellular-level need to connect with nature—and explains how it shows up in three powerful ways:

  • Direct connection (light, water, nature itself)
  • Indirect connection (materials, patterns, textures inspired by nature)
  • Spatial design (how spaces create safety, curiosity, and calm through elements like “prospect and refuge”)


Together, Leigh and Elizabeth explore how these principles aren’t just aesthetic—they’re deeply human. They influence our nervous systems, our ability to think clearly, and even our capacity to connect with one another. At a time when many of us spend 85–95% of our lives indoors, the question becomes: What if our spaces could actively support our wellbeing instead of depleting it?


Elizabeth shares stories from her work designing schools and public spaces—including how thoughtful design can transform how children learn, engage, and feel in their bodies. She also reflects on how even small choices—light, materials, patterns—can dramatically shift our experience of a space. Most importantly, this episode isn’t about perfect design or privilege. It’s about awareness and agency. Because as Elizabeth reminds us: When you walk into a space and it feels good—there’s a reason.


In This Episode, We Explore:

  • Why there is no such thing as a neutral space
  • The science and psychology behind biophilia
  • How design impacts stress, focus, and emotional wellbeing
  • The concept of “prospect and refuge”—and why you always want the booth
  • How patterns in nature (like fractals) calm the brain
  • Why modern life has disconnected us—and how to gently reconnect
  • Practical ways to bring grounding, beauty, and calm into your everyday spaces


A Few Questions to Carry With You:

  • What spaces in your life make you feel most like yourself?
  • Where do you feel calm, open, or connected—and why?
  • What small shift could you make to bring more light, texture, or nature into your day?


Why This Conversation Matters

At its core, this episode is about reclaiming a sense of agency in uncertain times. When the world feels loud, divided, or overwhelming, place becomes a quiet but powerful ally.

By tending to the spaces around us, we begin to steady ourselves within. And from that place—we’re better able to engage, connect, and lead with intention.


About Elizabeth MacPherson-Hearn

As a leader at the internationally acclaimed architecture firm Mithun, Elizabeth translates visionary thinking into grounded, human-centered spaces. She brings a keen awareness of sensory experience and how people move through daily life, seamlessly blending interior design with architecture to create environments that feel intuitive and connected from the moment you enter. Her deep knowledge of sustainable materials allows her to design spaces that create long-term value across both public and private sectors.


A strong listener with a background rooted in physiology, Elizabeth designs places that people don’t just use—but feel. Her work is guided by a deep understanding of biophilia—the innate, sensory connection between humans and the natural world—which she lectures on nationally.

]]> false full 44 2 <![CDATA[How Not to Harden in Hard Times - with John Wood Jr.]]> In this timely episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan sits down with John Wood Jr. — a national leader in the American depolarization movement, former GOP candidate for Congress and an inspiring voice for principled bridge-building — to explore one of the most pressing tensions of our time: how to hold strong convictions without becoming self-righteous or contributing to deeper division. John's personal story as the son of a conservative, white southernor and a liberal, black mom from LA is a testament to how differences can mold character, insight, understanding, and acceptance.


At a moment when many of us feel morally awake — and highly motivated to ‘do good’ while also navigating a culture shaped by low trust, shifting of democratic norms, and polarization—this conversation asks some complicated and difficult questions:


  • how do we pursue justice and accountability without reinforcing the very brokenness we are trying to address? and
  • how can we embody love and do so at a time of so much unneeded suffering? 


This episode is a salve for the soul and offers practice insights on how to create a more perfect union at home, at work, and across the country.


Check out The Space In Between website for detailed show notes at https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/how-not-to-harden-in-hard-times-with-john-wood-jr/. And if you love the show - leave a review and pass this link along!

]]> Wed, 15 Apr 2026 07:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 52:59 In this timely episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan sits down with John Wood Jr. — a national leader in the American depolarization movement, former GOP candidate for Congress and an inspiring voice for principled bridge-building — to explore one of the most pressing tensions of our time: how to hold strong convictions without becoming self-righteous or contributing to deeper division. John's personal story as the son of a conservative, white southernor and a liberal, black mom from LA is a testament to how differences can mold character, insight, understanding, and acceptance.


At a moment when many of us feel morally awake — and highly motivated to ‘do good’ while also navigating a culture shaped by low trust, shifting of democratic norms, and polarization—this conversation asks some complicated and difficult questions:


  • how do we pursue justice and accountability without reinforcing the very brokenness we are trying to address? and
  • how can we embody love and do so at a time of so much unneeded suffering? 


This episode is a salve for the soul and offers practice insights on how to create a more perfect union at home, at work, and across the country.


Check out The Space In Between website for detailed show notes at https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/how-not-to-harden-in-hard-times-with-john-wood-jr/. And if you love the show - leave a review and pass this link along!

]]> In this timely episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan sits down with John Wood Jr. — a national leader in the American depolarization movement, former GOP candidate for Congress and an inspiring voice for principled bridge-building — to explore one of the most pressing tensions of our time: how to hold strong convictions without becoming self-righteous or contributing to deeper division. John's personal story as the son of a conservative, white southernor and a liberal, black mom from LA is a testament to how differences can mold character, insight, understanding, and acceptance.


At a moment when many of us feel morally awake — and highly motivated to ‘do good’ while also navigating a culture shaped by low trust, shifting of democratic norms, and polarization—this conversation asks some complicated and difficult questions:


  • how do we pursue justice and accountability without reinforcing the very brokenness we are trying to address? and
  • how can we embody love and do so at a time of so much unneeded suffering? 


This episode is a salve for the soul and offers practice insights on how to create a more perfect union at home, at work, and across the country.


Check out The Space In Between website for detailed show notes at https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/how-not-to-harden-in-hard-times-with-john-wood-jr/. And if you love the show - leave a review and pass this link along!

]]> false full 43 2 <![CDATA[Leigh’s Leadership Lessons: Mad, But Not Mean]]> Anger is having a moment. You feel it. I feel it. 


Everyone seems to be carrying around a lit match… just waiting for something to burn. 

But here’s the uncomfortable question: What if the biggest problem isn’t anger itself… but how we’re using it? 

In this solo episode, I take on something most of us don’t want to admit:  That the same anger we believe is justified… can quietly turn into something else entirely. 


Something sharper. 

More self-righteous. 

More dehumanizing. 


And once it crosses that line, i starts feeding the very thing we say we’re against: injustice. 

I also wrestle with my own anger in real time—offering a raw, honest look at what it actually takes to navigate this tension when it’s deeply personal. 


Check out all the Space In Between website for detailed show notes at www.spaceinbetween.com. Please leave a review, share this episode and enjoy!

]]> Wed, 01 Apr 2026 06:47:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 11:51 Anger is having a moment. You feel it. I feel it. 


Everyone seems to be carrying around a lit match… just waiting for something to burn. 

But here’s the uncomfortable question: What if the biggest problem isn’t anger itself… but how we’re using it? 

In this solo episode, I take on something most of us don’t want to admit:  That the same anger we believe is justified… can quietly turn into something else entirely. 


Something sharper. 

More self-righteous. 

More dehumanizing. 


And once it crosses that line, i starts feeding the very thing we say we’re against: injustice. 

I also wrestle with my own anger in real time—offering a raw, honest look at what it actually takes to navigate this tension when it’s deeply personal. 


Check out all the Space In Between website for detailed show notes at www.spaceinbetween.com. Please leave a review, share this episode and enjoy!

]]> Anger is having a moment. You feel it. I feel it. 


Everyone seems to be carrying around a lit match… just waiting for something to burn. 

But here’s the uncomfortable question: What if the biggest problem isn’t anger itself… but how we’re using it? 

In this solo episode, I take on something most of us don’t want to admit:  That the same anger we believe is justified… can quietly turn into something else entirely. 


Something sharper. 

More self-righteous. 

More dehumanizing. 


And once it crosses that line, i starts feeding the very thing we say we’re against: injustice. 

I also wrestle with my own anger in real time—offering a raw, honest look at what it actually takes to navigate this tension when it’s deeply personal. 


Check out all the Space In Between website for detailed show notes at www.spaceinbetween.com. Please leave a review, share this episode and enjoy!

]]> false full 42 2 <![CDATA[The Hidden Systems Shaping Democracy & What We Believe - With Deb Roy]]> In this timely episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan sits down with Deb Roy, director of the MIT Center for Constructive Communication, to explore how the modern information ecosystem is reshaping democracy, trust, and our relationships with one another. At a time when misinformation, algorithmic amplification, and fragmented media environments are fueling polarization, Deb offers a powerful framework for understanding what he calls our information architecture—the invisible systems that determine what we see, what we believe, and how shared meaning either forms or breaks down.

But this conversation goes deeper than technology or media systems. It is ultimately about our humanness—the ways we see, hear, and relate to one another. Deb’s work reminds us that when information systems distort reality, they also weaken the relational fabric that allows diverse societies to function. As a world-leading researcher, Deb brings rigorous insight into how information systems shape civic life. Drawing on both modern research and what he calls “ancient wisdoms,” he reminds us that renewing democracy may begin with something profoundly simple: re-invigorating relational connection through listening, storytelling, and shared human experience.

Please leave a review and share the episode - the podcast is growing leaps and bounds thanks to supporters like you!

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]]> Wed, 18 Mar 2026 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 44:57 In this timely episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan sits down with Deb Roy, director of the MIT Center for Constructive Communication, to explore how the modern information ecosystem is reshaping democracy, trust, and our relationships with one another. At a time when misinformation, algorithmic amplification, and fragmented media environments are fueling polarization, Deb offers a powerful framework for understanding what he calls our information architecture—the invisible systems that determine what we see, what we believe, and how shared meaning either forms or breaks down.

But this conversation goes deeper than technology or media systems. It is ultimately about our humanness—the ways we see, hear, and relate to one another. Deb’s work reminds us that when information systems distort reality, they also weaken the relational fabric that allows diverse societies to function. As a world-leading researcher, Deb brings rigorous insight into how information systems shape civic life. Drawing on both modern research and what he calls “ancient wisdoms,” he reminds us that renewing democracy may begin with something profoundly simple: re-invigorating relational connection through listening, storytelling, and shared human experience.

Please leave a review and share the episode - the podcast is growing leaps and bounds thanks to supporters like you!

Support the show

]]> In this timely episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan sits down with Deb Roy, director of the MIT Center for Constructive Communication, to explore how the modern information ecosystem is reshaping democracy, trust, and our relationships with one another. At a time when misinformation, algorithmic amplification, and fragmented media environments are fueling polarization, Deb offers a powerful framework for understanding what he calls our information architecture—the invisible systems that determine what we see, what we believe, and how shared meaning either forms or breaks down.

But this conversation goes deeper than technology or media systems. It is ultimately about our humanness—the ways we see, hear, and relate to one another. Deb’s work reminds us that when information systems distort reality, they also weaken the relational fabric that allows diverse societies to function. As a world-leading researcher, Deb brings rigorous insight into how information systems shape civic life. Drawing on both modern research and what he calls “ancient wisdoms,” he reminds us that renewing democracy may begin with something profoundly simple: re-invigorating relational connection through listening, storytelling, and shared human experience.

Please leave a review and share the episode - the podcast is growing leaps and bounds thanks to supporters like you!

Support the show

]]> false full 41 2 <![CDATA[From Missiles to Mammograms: Dr. Susan Blumenthal on Women’s Health & Bipartisan Innovation]]> When Dr. Susan Blumenthal spearheaded a bold effort to move imaging technology from missiles to mammograms, she didn’t just advance innovation—she showed what’s possible when conviction meets creativity and unlikely coalitions.

In this conversation, Leigh sits down with the former U.S. Assistant Surgeon General and global public health leader to explore her decades of bipartisan service across both Democratic and Republican administrations, the deeply personal story that drew her into women’s health advocacy, and what it really takes to build progress across political and institutional divides.

Dr. Blumenthal makes a powerful case that women’s health and women’s empowerment are directly tied to the strength of families, communities, and nations. She also shares practical wisdom for staying grounded in your values when progress feels slow, misinformation spreads quickly, and polarization runs high.

This inspiring episode is about leadership in turbulent times, the courage to look around corners, staying persistent when the path ahead isn’t clear, and how storytelling and lived experience can help all of us build bridges—no matter our role.

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]]> Wed, 04 Mar 2026 15:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 50:18 When Dr. Susan Blumenthal spearheaded a bold effort to move imaging technology from missiles to mammograms, she didn’t just advance innovation—she showed what’s possible when conviction meets creativity and unlikely coalitions.

In this conversation, Leigh sits down with the former U.S. Assistant Surgeon General and global public health leader to explore her decades of bipartisan service across both Democratic and Republican administrations, the deeply personal story that drew her into women’s health advocacy, and what it really takes to build progress across political and institutional divides.

Dr. Blumenthal makes a powerful case that women’s health and women’s empowerment are directly tied to the strength of families, communities, and nations. She also shares practical wisdom for staying grounded in your values when progress feels slow, misinformation spreads quickly, and polarization runs high.

This inspiring episode is about leadership in turbulent times, the courage to look around corners, staying persistent when the path ahead isn’t clear, and how storytelling and lived experience can help all of us build bridges—no matter our role.

Support the show

]]> When Dr. Susan Blumenthal spearheaded a bold effort to move imaging technology from missiles to mammograms, she didn’t just advance innovation—she showed what’s possible when conviction meets creativity and unlikely coalitions.

In this conversation, Leigh sits down with the former U.S. Assistant Surgeon General and global public health leader to explore her decades of bipartisan service across both Democratic and Republican administrations, the deeply personal story that drew her into women’s health advocacy, and what it really takes to build progress across political and institutional divides.

Dr. Blumenthal makes a powerful case that women’s health and women’s empowerment are directly tied to the strength of families, communities, and nations. She also shares practical wisdom for staying grounded in your values when progress feels slow, misinformation spreads quickly, and polarization runs high.

This inspiring episode is about leadership in turbulent times, the courage to look around corners, staying persistent when the path ahead isn’t clear, and how storytelling and lived experience can help all of us build bridges—no matter our role.

Support the show

]]> false full 40 2 <![CDATA[Bioethics and Moral Courage in Practice – with Dr. Vardit Ravitsky]]> In this episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan and Dr. Vardit Ravitsky (President and CEO of The Hastings Center for Bioethics) explore what moral courage in practice actually looks like when the choices are thorny, the facts are contested, and the consequences are deeply human. Leigh and Dr. Ravitsky explore how bioethics helps us navigate today’s most charged issues—vaccines and public health, abortion and women’s lives, AI and genomics—without sliding into either performative “dialogue” or hardened certainty. You’ll hear why Dr. Ravitsky insists that “good ethics starts with good facts,” how her team designs inclusive conversations without legitimizing misinformation or dehumanization, and why trust-building relationships are the real engine of progress. If you’re hungry for grounded wisdom on how to stay humane, clear-eyed, and connected in unsettled times—this conversation will both steady you and challenge you.

Check out show notes at www.spaceinbetweenpodcast.com.  

Please send feedback, leave a review and pass the podcast along to your friends and family. 

Support the show

]]> Wed, 18 Feb 2026 13:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 55:02 In this episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan and Dr. Vardit Ravitsky (President and CEO of The Hastings Center for Bioethics) explore what moral courage in practice actually looks like when the choices are thorny, the facts are contested, and the consequences are deeply human. Leigh and Dr. Ravitsky explore how bioethics helps us navigate today’s most charged issues—vaccines and public health, abortion and women’s lives, AI and genomics—without sliding into either performative “dialogue” or hardened certainty. You’ll hear why Dr. Ravitsky insists that “good ethics starts with good facts,” how her team designs inclusive conversations without legitimizing misinformation or dehumanization, and why trust-building relationships are the real engine of progress. If you’re hungry for grounded wisdom on how to stay humane, clear-eyed, and connected in unsettled times—this conversation will both steady you and challenge you.

Check out show notes at www.spaceinbetweenpodcast.com.  

Please send feedback, leave a review and pass the podcast along to your friends and family. 

Support the show

]]> In this episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan and Dr. Vardit Ravitsky (President and CEO of The Hastings Center for Bioethics) explore what moral courage in practice actually looks like when the choices are thorny, the facts are contested, and the consequences are deeply human. Leigh and Dr. Ravitsky explore how bioethics helps us navigate today’s most charged issues—vaccines and public health, abortion and women’s lives, AI and genomics—without sliding into either performative “dialogue” or hardened certainty. You’ll hear why Dr. Ravitsky insists that “good ethics starts with good facts,” how her team designs inclusive conversations without legitimizing misinformation or dehumanization, and why trust-building relationships are the real engine of progress. If you’re hungry for grounded wisdom on how to stay humane, clear-eyed, and connected in unsettled times—this conversation will both steady you and challenge you.

Check out show notes at www.spaceinbetweenpodcast.com.  

Please send feedback, leave a review and pass the podcast along to your friends and family. 

Support the show

]]> false full 39 2 <![CDATA[Polycrisis, Progress, and the Wellbeing Economy — with Gaya Herrington]]> What happens when the story of “more is always better” stops working—economically, socially, and spiritually? In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh Morgan sits down with wellbeing economist and global influencer Gaya Herrington to explore why a 'growth-at-all-costs' mindset and economic system is colliding with real-world limits, and what a healthier paradigm could look like—one centered on human and ecological wellbeing, not just GDP.  Leigh and Gaya discuss how to actually do this at a time of polarization and polycrisis in the US and abroad. Together, they unpack how leaders - and indeed, everyone - can hold complexity without despair, build agency in unsettled times, and bridge divides by talking about what people actually long for: stability, dignity, belonging, and a future that feels livable. Gaya's insights will inspire and help all of us identify ways to center wellbeing in all aspects of our lives. 

👉🏼 The Space In Between is growing! Please leave a review, share with a friend, and check out our website www,spaceinbetween.com.  For inquiries about working with Leigh, check out www.imaginal-leadership.com.  

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]]> Wed, 04 Feb 2026 14:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 46:57 What happens when the story of “more is always better” stops working—economically, socially, and spiritually? In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh Morgan sits down with wellbeing economist and global influencer Gaya Herrington to explore why a 'growth-at-all-costs' mindset and economic system is colliding with real-world limits, and what a healthier paradigm could look like—one centered on human and ecological wellbeing, not just GDP.  Leigh and Gaya discuss how to actually do this at a time of polarization and polycrisis in the US and abroad. Together, they unpack how leaders - and indeed, everyone - can hold complexity without despair, build agency in unsettled times, and bridge divides by talking about what people actually long for: stability, dignity, belonging, and a future that feels livable. Gaya's insights will inspire and help all of us identify ways to center wellbeing in all aspects of our lives. 

👉🏼 The Space In Between is growing! Please leave a review, share with a friend, and check out our website www,spaceinbetween.com.  For inquiries about working with Leigh, check out www.imaginal-leadership.com.  

Support the show

]]> What happens when the story of “more is always better” stops working—economically, socially, and spiritually? In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh Morgan sits down with wellbeing economist and global influencer Gaya Herrington to explore why a 'growth-at-all-costs' mindset and economic system is colliding with real-world limits, and what a healthier paradigm could look like—one centered on human and ecological wellbeing, not just GDP.  Leigh and Gaya discuss how to actually do this at a time of polarization and polycrisis in the US and abroad. Together, they unpack how leaders - and indeed, everyone - can hold complexity without despair, build agency in unsettled times, and bridge divides by talking about what people actually long for: stability, dignity, belonging, and a future that feels livable. Gaya's insights will inspire and help all of us identify ways to center wellbeing in all aspects of our lives. 

👉🏼 The Space In Between is growing! Please leave a review, share with a friend, and check out our website www,spaceinbetween.com.  For inquiries about working with Leigh, check out www.imaginal-leadership.com.  

Support the show

]]> false full 38 2 <![CDATA[Courage to Build What's Missing: Motherhood & Service with CEO Stephiney Foley]]> In this episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan sits down with Stephiney Foley—West Point graduate, Army officer, tech leader, proud immigrant and founder and CEO of YuziCare—to explore service-driven leadership, motherhood as a catalyst for systems change, and how we build real connection across political difference in polarized times. Together, they unpack what leadership looks like under pressure, why mission matters, and how small daily acts of care can restore agency and rebuild trust—at home, at work, and in the wider civic fabric. They also dive into Stephiney's lessons from the Presidential Leadership Scholars program and why care and love can indeed become common ground in today's low-trust era.

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]]> Wed, 21 Jan 2026 15:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 46:25 In this episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan sits down with Stephiney Foley—West Point graduate, Army officer, tech leader, proud immigrant and founder and CEO of YuziCare—to explore service-driven leadership, motherhood as a catalyst for systems change, and how we build real connection across political difference in polarized times. Together, they unpack what leadership looks like under pressure, why mission matters, and how small daily acts of care can restore agency and rebuild trust—at home, at work, and in the wider civic fabric. They also dive into Stephiney's lessons from the Presidential Leadership Scholars program and why care and love can indeed become common ground in today's low-trust era.

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]]> In this episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan sits down with Stephiney Foley—West Point graduate, Army officer, tech leader, proud immigrant and founder and CEO of YuziCare—to explore service-driven leadership, motherhood as a catalyst for systems change, and how we build real connection across political difference in polarized times. Together, they unpack what leadership looks like under pressure, why mission matters, and how small daily acts of care can restore agency and rebuild trust—at home, at work, and in the wider civic fabric. They also dive into Stephiney's lessons from the Presidential Leadership Scholars program and why care and love can indeed become common ground in today's low-trust era.

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]]> false full 37 2 <![CDATA[Leigh's Leadership Lessons: Staying High Agency in Unsettled Times]]> In this solo episode of The Space In Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan introduces a theme we’ll return to again and again this year: staying high agency in unsettled times. With clear-eyed realism about polarization, distrust, and today's often trying times, Leigh offers a grounded reframe: agency isn’t optimism or control—it’s the felt sense that your actions matter, even when circumstances are messy. She shares a powerful metaphor (how stars often flare brightest before collapse), a personal story about resilience and identity after a life-altering knee injury, and advice on how to stay steady without becoming hardened. You’ll walk away with accessible practices—know your boiling points, take three deep breaths, stay in relationship, refuse dehumanization, and hold people accountable without hating—so we can maintain integrity, strengthen connection, and bridge divides when the world needs this most. 


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]]> Wed, 07 Jan 2026 16:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 18:04 In this solo episode of The Space In Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan introduces a theme we’ll return to again and again this year: staying high agency in unsettled times. With clear-eyed realism about polarization, distrust, and today's often trying times, Leigh offers a grounded reframe: agency isn’t optimism or control—it’s the felt sense that your actions matter, even when circumstances are messy. She shares a powerful metaphor (how stars often flare brightest before collapse), a personal story about resilience and identity after a life-altering knee injury, and advice on how to stay steady without becoming hardened. You’ll walk away with accessible practices—know your boiling points, take three deep breaths, stay in relationship, refuse dehumanization, and hold people accountable without hating—so we can maintain integrity, strengthen connection, and bridge divides when the world needs this most. 


Support the show

]]> In this solo episode of The Space In Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan introduces a theme we’ll return to again and again this year: staying high agency in unsettled times. With clear-eyed realism about polarization, distrust, and today's often trying times, Leigh offers a grounded reframe: agency isn’t optimism or control—it’s the felt sense that your actions matter, even when circumstances are messy. She shares a powerful metaphor (how stars often flare brightest before collapse), a personal story about resilience and identity after a life-altering knee injury, and advice on how to stay steady without becoming hardened. You’ll walk away with accessible practices—know your boiling points, take three deep breaths, stay in relationship, refuse dehumanization, and hold people accountable without hating—so we can maintain integrity, strengthen connection, and bridge divides when the world needs this most. 


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]]> false full 36 2 <![CDATA[Leigh's Leadership Lessons: End Of Year Reflections on 'Aliveness']]> In this special 2025 EOY solo episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan reflects on the lessons of 2025—both her personal insights as well as key lessons from 55 podcast episodes this year.  She explores the “quiet shift” that's happening across workplaces, families, and communities: everyday people choosing nuance, integrity, and aliveness over disconnection and certainty. She explores why high agency is the expressed form of aliveness—less about controlling outcomes and more about choosing how we meet the moment—then offers three grounded lessons for 2026: clarity matters more than certainty, courage doesn’t need theatrics, and connection is a practice. She shares personal stories and specific practices that have helped her navigate an incredibly fulfilling - and sometimes unpredictable - year. 

The practices she describes are mainstays for staying grounded and choiceful even amidst a polarized world: know your boiling points, seek other seekers, and tell stories. Join us for another great show, and please leave a review and share if you feel moved!

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]]> Wed, 31 Dec 2025 14:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 18:04 In this special 2025 EOY solo episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan reflects on the lessons of 2025—both her personal insights as well as key lessons from 55 podcast episodes this year.  She explores the “quiet shift” that's happening across workplaces, families, and communities: everyday people choosing nuance, integrity, and aliveness over disconnection and certainty. She explores why high agency is the expressed form of aliveness—less about controlling outcomes and more about choosing how we meet the moment—then offers three grounded lessons for 2026: clarity matters more than certainty, courage doesn’t need theatrics, and connection is a practice. She shares personal stories and specific practices that have helped her navigate an incredibly fulfilling - and sometimes unpredictable - year. 

The practices she describes are mainstays for staying grounded and choiceful even amidst a polarized world: know your boiling points, seek other seekers, and tell stories. Join us for another great show, and please leave a review and share if you feel moved!

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]]> In this special 2025 EOY solo episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan reflects on the lessons of 2025—both her personal insights as well as key lessons from 55 podcast episodes this year.  She explores the “quiet shift” that's happening across workplaces, families, and communities: everyday people choosing nuance, integrity, and aliveness over disconnection and certainty. She explores why high agency is the expressed form of aliveness—less about controlling outcomes and more about choosing how we meet the moment—then offers three grounded lessons for 2026: clarity matters more than certainty, courage doesn’t need theatrics, and connection is a practice. She shares personal stories and specific practices that have helped her navigate an incredibly fulfilling - and sometimes unpredictable - year. 

The practices she describes are mainstays for staying grounded and choiceful even amidst a polarized world: know your boiling points, seek other seekers, and tell stories. Join us for another great show, and please leave a review and share if you feel moved!

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]]> false full 35 2 <![CDATA[The Morgan Sisters: A Story of Bridging Divides ]]> Most weeks on The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan talks with leaders, innovators, and bridge builders out in the world. This week, she invites you into something closer: a candid conversation with her sister, Melinda Morgan Thomas, about the complicated alchemy of sibling relationships—and their slow burn journey from rivalry to real closeness.

Along the way, the Morgan sisters explore how family dynamics shape our assumptions, how trust is rebuilt through “micro-moments,” and why their story has important – and transferable - lessons for anyone trying to create healthier dynamics at home, at work, and in community. This episode is touching, tender, and inspiring!

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]]> Wed, 24 Dec 2025 15:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 49:23 Most weeks on The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan talks with leaders, innovators, and bridge builders out in the world. This week, she invites you into something closer: a candid conversation with her sister, Melinda Morgan Thomas, about the complicated alchemy of sibling relationships—and their slow burn journey from rivalry to real closeness.

Along the way, the Morgan sisters explore how family dynamics shape our assumptions, how trust is rebuilt through “micro-moments,” and why their story has important – and transferable - lessons for anyone trying to create healthier dynamics at home, at work, and in community. This episode is touching, tender, and inspiring!

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]]> Most weeks on The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan talks with leaders, innovators, and bridge builders out in the world. This week, she invites you into something closer: a candid conversation with her sister, Melinda Morgan Thomas, about the complicated alchemy of sibling relationships—and their slow burn journey from rivalry to real closeness.

Along the way, the Morgan sisters explore how family dynamics shape our assumptions, how trust is rebuilt through “micro-moments,” and why their story has important – and transferable - lessons for anyone trying to create healthier dynamics at home, at work, and in community. This episode is touching, tender, and inspiring!

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]]> false full 34 2 <![CDATA[GenZ, Trust, and Public Service - with ASU Dean Cynthia Lietz]]> In a time of rising distrust and deep polarization, what does it mean to be an engaged citizen—and how is Gen Z shaping that answer? Host Leigh Morgan sits down with Cynthia Lietz, Dean of the Watts College of Public Service and Community Solutions at Arizona State University, to explore how today’s students are navigating trauma, digital overload, and democratic uncertainty while still showing up with conviction, compassion, and a call to serve. 

Dean Lietz urges older generations not to simply hand Gen Z a broken system and say “good luck,” but to model emotionally grounded, courageous leadership and build institutions worthy of their trust. This episode will give you a renewed sense of hope—and responsibility—for standing with young people to reduce harm, expand opportunity, and strengthen our democracy.

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]]> Wed, 10 Dec 2025 14:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 47:25 In a time of rising distrust and deep polarization, what does it mean to be an engaged citizen—and how is Gen Z shaping that answer? Host Leigh Morgan sits down with Cynthia Lietz, Dean of the Watts College of Public Service and Community Solutions at Arizona State University, to explore how today’s students are navigating trauma, digital overload, and democratic uncertainty while still showing up with conviction, compassion, and a call to serve. 

Dean Lietz urges older generations not to simply hand Gen Z a broken system and say “good luck,” but to model emotionally grounded, courageous leadership and build institutions worthy of their trust. This episode will give you a renewed sense of hope—and responsibility—for standing with young people to reduce harm, expand opportunity, and strengthen our democracy.

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]]> In a time of rising distrust and deep polarization, what does it mean to be an engaged citizen—and how is Gen Z shaping that answer? Host Leigh Morgan sits down with Cynthia Lietz, Dean of the Watts College of Public Service and Community Solutions at Arizona State University, to explore how today’s students are navigating trauma, digital overload, and democratic uncertainty while still showing up with conviction, compassion, and a call to serve. 

Dean Lietz urges older generations not to simply hand Gen Z a broken system and say “good luck,” but to model emotionally grounded, courageous leadership and build institutions worthy of their trust. This episode will give you a renewed sense of hope—and responsibility—for standing with young people to reduce harm, expand opportunity, and strengthen our democracy.

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]]> false full 33 2 <![CDATA[What Behavioral Science Reveals About Human Connection - with Shirin Oreizy]]> In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh hosts behavioral science expert Shirin Oreizy—founder and former CEO of Next Step and noted coach to leaders — who shares practical tools for holding firm to our values and bridging divides. We explore behavioral science insights including why fear of loss can loom larger than potential gain, how smart framing of issues can unlock connection, and why building something together first can lower defenses and open honest dialogue. We also explore “above vs. below the line” leadership, and the slow, steady work of cultivating trust over time. Leigh and Shirin share personal examples from their lives and go deep in exploring how to feel empowered during polarized times. Listen for practices you can use today with your team, your family, and your community. 

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]]> Wed, 26 Nov 2025 16:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 47:18 In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh hosts behavioral science expert Shirin Oreizy—founder and former CEO of Next Step and noted coach to leaders — who shares practical tools for holding firm to our values and bridging divides. We explore behavioral science insights including why fear of loss can loom larger than potential gain, how smart framing of issues can unlock connection, and why building something together first can lower defenses and open honest dialogue. We also explore “above vs. below the line” leadership, and the slow, steady work of cultivating trust over time. Leigh and Shirin share personal examples from their lives and go deep in exploring how to feel empowered during polarized times. Listen for practices you can use today with your team, your family, and your community. 

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]]> In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh hosts behavioral science expert Shirin Oreizy—founder and former CEO of Next Step and noted coach to leaders — who shares practical tools for holding firm to our values and bridging divides. We explore behavioral science insights including why fear of loss can loom larger than potential gain, how smart framing of issues can unlock connection, and why building something together first can lower defenses and open honest dialogue. We also explore “above vs. below the line” leadership, and the slow, steady work of cultivating trust over time. Leigh and Shirin share personal examples from their lives and go deep in exploring how to feel empowered during polarized times. Listen for practices you can use today with your team, your family, and your community. 

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]]> false full 32 2 <![CDATA[The Transformational Power of Knowing Your Boiling Points]]> In this episode, I reflect on a few powerful moments I’ve experienced as host of The Space In Between. I explore a core theme from Season I: how self-awareness is essential for both taking principled stands on the issues we care about and finding ways to bridge divides. A key concept is understanding our personal 'boiling points'—those moments when we’re so emotionally charged that our ability to engage empathetically with others is limited. Knowing our boiling points gives us agency to make choices about when, and how to dialogue with people who have different views.  Join me as I unpack this important topic!

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]]> Wed, 19 Nov 2025 14:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 10:57 In this episode, I reflect on a few powerful moments I’ve experienced as host of The Space In Between. I explore a core theme from Season I: how self-awareness is essential for both taking principled stands on the issues we care about and finding ways to bridge divides. A key concept is understanding our personal 'boiling points'—those moments when we’re so emotionally charged that our ability to engage empathetically with others is limited. Knowing our boiling points gives us agency to make choices about when, and how to dialogue with people who have different views.  Join me as I unpack this important topic!

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]]> In this episode, I reflect on a few powerful moments I’ve experienced as host of The Space In Between. I explore a core theme from Season I: how self-awareness is essential for both taking principled stands on the issues we care about and finding ways to bridge divides. A key concept is understanding our personal 'boiling points'—those moments when we’re so emotionally charged that our ability to engage empathetically with others is limited. Knowing our boiling points gives us agency to make choices about when, and how to dialogue with people who have different views.  Join me as I unpack this important topic!

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]]> false full 31 2 <![CDATA[The Supreme Court & Why It Matters in Divided Times - with Rebecca Woods, Esq.]]> In this episode, Leigh sits down with distinguished litigator Rebecca Woods to demystify how the U.S. Supreme Court interprets the Constitution—and why those choices shape our daily lives. From textualism and originalism to the modernist “living constitution,” Rebecca explains the frameworks behind landmark rulings, what stare decisis really means, and how cases like Bostock and Dobbs reveal the Court’s internal debates. Importantly, she shares a simple practice for our polarized moment: we bridge divides by listening with an open heart—not to agree, but to understand. If you want less heat and more clarity about what the Court does and how to stay grounded in your values, this conversation is a clear, calm guide.

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]]> Wed, 12 Nov 2025 13:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 48:29 In this episode, Leigh sits down with distinguished litigator Rebecca Woods to demystify how the U.S. Supreme Court interprets the Constitution—and why those choices shape our daily lives. From textualism and originalism to the modernist “living constitution,” Rebecca explains the frameworks behind landmark rulings, what stare decisis really means, and how cases like Bostock and Dobbs reveal the Court’s internal debates. Importantly, she shares a simple practice for our polarized moment: we bridge divides by listening with an open heart—not to agree, but to understand. If you want less heat and more clarity about what the Court does and how to stay grounded in your values, this conversation is a clear, calm guide.

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]]> In this episode, Leigh sits down with distinguished litigator Rebecca Woods to demystify how the U.S. Supreme Court interprets the Constitution—and why those choices shape our daily lives. From textualism and originalism to the modernist “living constitution,” Rebecca explains the frameworks behind landmark rulings, what stare decisis really means, and how cases like Bostock and Dobbs reveal the Court’s internal debates. Importantly, she shares a simple practice for our polarized moment: we bridge divides by listening with an open heart—not to agree, but to understand. If you want less heat and more clarity about what the Court does and how to stay grounded in your values, this conversation is a clear, calm guide.

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]]> false full 30 2 <![CDATA[Leigh's Leadership Lessons: Is Polarization an Illusion?]]> In a world that often feels increasingly fractured, it’s easy to believe the divisions we see and feel are real and fixed. But what if they aren’t? What if polarization—the sense that “we” and “they” are hopelessly far apart—is actually an illusion? In this episode of The Space In Between, I explore this evocative idea through the work of Dr. Todd Rose and my own experience, revealing that while polarization feels real, it’s largely a collective distortion.  It turns out that beneath the noise, Americans share remarkably similar values: to be good people, to do meaningful work, to nurture family and friendships, to have financial security, and to contribute to our communities. 

Join me as I explore this topic and share three simple practices to shatter the illusion of polarization for good. This podcast will leave you feeling hopeful and, empowered to create meaningful change at a tender time for our society. 

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]]> Wed, 05 Nov 2025 13:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 14:47 In a world that often feels increasingly fractured, it’s easy to believe the divisions we see and feel are real and fixed. But what if they aren’t? What if polarization—the sense that “we” and “they” are hopelessly far apart—is actually an illusion? In this episode of The Space In Between, I explore this evocative idea through the work of Dr. Todd Rose and my own experience, revealing that while polarization feels real, it’s largely a collective distortion.  It turns out that beneath the noise, Americans share remarkably similar values: to be good people, to do meaningful work, to nurture family and friendships, to have financial security, and to contribute to our communities. 

Join me as I explore this topic and share three simple practices to shatter the illusion of polarization for good. This podcast will leave you feeling hopeful and, empowered to create meaningful change at a tender time for our society. 

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]]> In a world that often feels increasingly fractured, it’s easy to believe the divisions we see and feel are real and fixed. But what if they aren’t? What if polarization—the sense that “we” and “they” are hopelessly far apart—is actually an illusion? In this episode of The Space In Between, I explore this evocative idea through the work of Dr. Todd Rose and my own experience, revealing that while polarization feels real, it’s largely a collective distortion.  It turns out that beneath the noise, Americans share remarkably similar values: to be good people, to do meaningful work, to nurture family and friendships, to have financial security, and to contribute to our communities. 

Join me as I explore this topic and share three simple practices to shatter the illusion of polarization for good. This podcast will leave you feeling hopeful and, empowered to create meaningful change at a tender time for our society. 

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]]> false full 29 2 <![CDATA[Fighting Cancer & Bridging Divides with Dr. Nancy Davidson]]> This episode of The Space In Between centers on cancer—a topic that touches nearly everyone and, crucially, reminds us of our shared humanity. When a loved one receives a diagnosis, compassion cuts through ideology: neighbors cook meals, coworkers donate PTO, communities fundraise. Fighting cancer becomes a common cause that unites us in hope. Host Leigh Morgan is joined by Dr. Nancy Davidson—renowned breast cancer oncologist, translational researcher, and executive vice president/chief academic officer at Fred Hutch Cancer Center—to offer a clear-eyed, optimistic update on where oncology stands and where it’s headed. And along the way, they share tips for how bridging divides across cancer benefits us all.

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]]> Wed, 29 Oct 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 48:04 This episode of The Space In Between centers on cancer—a topic that touches nearly everyone and, crucially, reminds us of our shared humanity. When a loved one receives a diagnosis, compassion cuts through ideology: neighbors cook meals, coworkers donate PTO, communities fundraise. Fighting cancer becomes a common cause that unites us in hope. Host Leigh Morgan is joined by Dr. Nancy Davidson—renowned breast cancer oncologist, translational researcher, and executive vice president/chief academic officer at Fred Hutch Cancer Center—to offer a clear-eyed, optimistic update on where oncology stands and where it’s headed. And along the way, they share tips for how bridging divides across cancer benefits us all.

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]]> This episode of The Space In Between centers on cancer—a topic that touches nearly everyone and, crucially, reminds us of our shared humanity. When a loved one receives a diagnosis, compassion cuts through ideology: neighbors cook meals, coworkers donate PTO, communities fundraise. Fighting cancer becomes a common cause that unites us in hope. Host Leigh Morgan is joined by Dr. Nancy Davidson—renowned breast cancer oncologist, translational researcher, and executive vice president/chief academic officer at Fred Hutch Cancer Center—to offer a clear-eyed, optimistic update on where oncology stands and where it’s headed. And along the way, they share tips for how bridging divides across cancer benefits us all.

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]]> false full 28 2 <![CDATA[Wow: Understanding the Big Shifts in K-12 Education - with Laura Pappano]]> In this episode, host Leigh Morgan sat down with award-winning journalist and author Laura Pappano to discuss the seismic changes reshaping K-12 education since the new administration took office. This topic is often emotive, as we've seen in PTA and school board meetings across the country.  Leigh and Laura dive into why this is the case, and explore the expansion of school vouchers, the restructuring of federal education policy, and the consequences of an increasing focus of education as a marketplace rather than a public good that centers student achievement. Learning how to talk constructively about these profound changes is essential for bridging the divides that keep communities apart, especially when the future of public schooling affects every neighborhood and family across the political spectrum.

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]]> Wed, 22 Oct 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 47:33 In this episode, host Leigh Morgan sat down with award-winning journalist and author Laura Pappano to discuss the seismic changes reshaping K-12 education since the new administration took office. This topic is often emotive, as we've seen in PTA and school board meetings across the country.  Leigh and Laura dive into why this is the case, and explore the expansion of school vouchers, the restructuring of federal education policy, and the consequences of an increasing focus of education as a marketplace rather than a public good that centers student achievement. Learning how to talk constructively about these profound changes is essential for bridging the divides that keep communities apart, especially when the future of public schooling affects every neighborhood and family across the political spectrum.

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]]> In this episode, host Leigh Morgan sat down with award-winning journalist and author Laura Pappano to discuss the seismic changes reshaping K-12 education since the new administration took office. This topic is often emotive, as we've seen in PTA and school board meetings across the country.  Leigh and Laura dive into why this is the case, and explore the expansion of school vouchers, the restructuring of federal education policy, and the consequences of an increasing focus of education as a marketplace rather than a public good that centers student achievement. Learning how to talk constructively about these profound changes is essential for bridging the divides that keep communities apart, especially when the future of public schooling affects every neighborhood and family across the political spectrum.

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]]> false full 27 2 <![CDATA[Leigh's Leadership Lessons: The Space In Between is NOT the Middle of Anything]]> With our one-year anniversary, we are dropping one of the most popular episodes from last year! The Space in Between as a podcast and framework for daily living is about having the courage to stand in the tension between opposing views, where real growth, connection and innovation happen. In a world that often pressures us to pick a side, this podcast explores what it means to stay present, curious, and open in the face of complexity. It’s a psychic, emotional and mental space that invites deep listening, humility, and the willingness to hold multiple truths at once. While it can be uncomfortable, it’s also where creativity thrives and where more humane, effective leadership is born. The goal is to create spaces — in life, work, and society — where nuance is welcomed and transformative ideas can take root.

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]]> Wed, 15 Oct 2025 13:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 48:29 With our one-year anniversary, we are dropping one of the most popular episodes from last year! The Space in Between as a podcast and framework for daily living is about having the courage to stand in the tension between opposing views, where real growth, connection and innovation happen. In a world that often pressures us to pick a side, this podcast explores what it means to stay present, curious, and open in the face of complexity. It’s a psychic, emotional and mental space that invites deep listening, humility, and the willingness to hold multiple truths at once. While it can be uncomfortable, it’s also where creativity thrives and where more humane, effective leadership is born. The goal is to create spaces — in life, work, and society — where nuance is welcomed and transformative ideas can take root.

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]]> With our one-year anniversary, we are dropping one of the most popular episodes from last year! The Space in Between as a podcast and framework for daily living is about having the courage to stand in the tension between opposing views, where real growth, connection and innovation happen. In a world that often pressures us to pick a side, this podcast explores what it means to stay present, curious, and open in the face of complexity. It’s a psychic, emotional and mental space that invites deep listening, humility, and the willingness to hold multiple truths at once. While it can be uncomfortable, it’s also where creativity thrives and where more humane, effective leadership is born. The goal is to create spaces — in life, work, and society — where nuance is welcomed and transformative ideas can take root.

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]]> false full 26 2 <![CDATA[More Truth Talk About Immigration with Maggie Mitchell Salem]]> Today’s episode tackles the sweeping shifts in U.S. immigration policy—tightened legal immigration, mass deportation efforts, and the rollback of existing due process protections for legal residents and undocumented workers—while modeling how to debate fiercely held views without dehumanizing one another. Joining me is Maggie Mitchell Salem, a returning guest and one of the country’s leading immigration experts. Maggie is known for her candid, nonpartisan approach and she brings clear-eyed insight on what’s changed, what hasn’t, and how we can have sensible immigration policy. Leigh and Maggie explore how we can bridge divides by creating spaces for good-faith dialogue, separate fact from spin, name trade-offs, and still hold fast to shared American values including dignity, safety, kindness, and the rule of law.

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]]> Wed, 08 Oct 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 57:21 Today’s episode tackles the sweeping shifts in U.S. immigration policy—tightened legal immigration, mass deportation efforts, and the rollback of existing due process protections for legal residents and undocumented workers—while modeling how to debate fiercely held views without dehumanizing one another. Joining me is Maggie Mitchell Salem, a returning guest and one of the country’s leading immigration experts. Maggie is known for her candid, nonpartisan approach and she brings clear-eyed insight on what’s changed, what hasn’t, and how we can have sensible immigration policy. Leigh and Maggie explore how we can bridge divides by creating spaces for good-faith dialogue, separate fact from spin, name trade-offs, and still hold fast to shared American values including dignity, safety, kindness, and the rule of law.

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]]> Today’s episode tackles the sweeping shifts in U.S. immigration policy—tightened legal immigration, mass deportation efforts, and the rollback of existing due process protections for legal residents and undocumented workers—while modeling how to debate fiercely held views without dehumanizing one another. Joining me is Maggie Mitchell Salem, a returning guest and one of the country’s leading immigration experts. Maggie is known for her candid, nonpartisan approach and she brings clear-eyed insight on what’s changed, what hasn’t, and how we can have sensible immigration policy. Leigh and Maggie explore how we can bridge divides by creating spaces for good-faith dialogue, separate fact from spin, name trade-offs, and still hold fast to shared American values including dignity, safety, kindness, and the rule of law.

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]]> false full 25 2 <![CDATA[Health Insurance: What's All the Fuss?]]> In this episode, we explore one of the most complex and emotionally charged dimensions of modern health and well-being: health insurance.. Premiums rise, benefits are confusing to understand, and many of us have stories of great frustration with the system. At the same time, those who have insurance know—often from personal experience—the critical role that it plays in our daily lives. Debates about health insurance can also be deeply polarizing, yet this is precisely why we need to make time to listen, learn and look for creative ways to improve the system. My guest, Jamie Williams, brings deep industry knowledge from her years as a well respected executive in the sector. She is also a steady voice of clarity, helping us explore how we got where we are today, what isn’t working well, what is, and how to bridge divides that keep us apart.

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]]> Wed, 01 Oct 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 50:06 In this episode, we explore one of the most complex and emotionally charged dimensions of modern health and well-being: health insurance.. Premiums rise, benefits are confusing to understand, and many of us have stories of great frustration with the system. At the same time, those who have insurance know—often from personal experience—the critical role that it plays in our daily lives. Debates about health insurance can also be deeply polarizing, yet this is precisely why we need to make time to listen, learn and look for creative ways to improve the system. My guest, Jamie Williams, brings deep industry knowledge from her years as a well respected executive in the sector. She is also a steady voice of clarity, helping us explore how we got where we are today, what isn’t working well, what is, and how to bridge divides that keep us apart.

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]]> In this episode, we explore one of the most complex and emotionally charged dimensions of modern health and well-being: health insurance.. Premiums rise, benefits are confusing to understand, and many of us have stories of great frustration with the system. At the same time, those who have insurance know—often from personal experience—the critical role that it plays in our daily lives. Debates about health insurance can also be deeply polarizing, yet this is precisely why we need to make time to listen, learn and look for creative ways to improve the system. My guest, Jamie Williams, brings deep industry knowledge from her years as a well respected executive in the sector. She is also a steady voice of clarity, helping us explore how we got where we are today, what isn’t working well, what is, and how to bridge divides that keep us apart.

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]]> false full 24 2 <![CDATA[Leigh's Leadership Lessons: Why Lying is Contagious - And How To Turn the Tide ]]> Let’s be honest: an epidemic of lying is infecting public discourse. From political stages to policy debates, from newsfeeds to dinner tables, dishonesty has become disturbingly normalized. Many of us feel caught between exhaustion—burying our heads in the sand under the sheer volume of misinformation—and frustration as we scramble to correct falsehoods that seem endless. But here’s the hopeful truth: this is not inevitable. In this episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan offers four simple practices to help us turn the tide, strengthen our communities, bridge divides, and nurture a culture of compelling honesty.


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]]> Wed, 24 Sep 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 18:29 Let’s be honest: an epidemic of lying is infecting public discourse. From political stages to policy debates, from newsfeeds to dinner tables, dishonesty has become disturbingly normalized. Many of us feel caught between exhaustion—burying our heads in the sand under the sheer volume of misinformation—and frustration as we scramble to correct falsehoods that seem endless. But here’s the hopeful truth: this is not inevitable. In this episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan offers four simple practices to help us turn the tide, strengthen our communities, bridge divides, and nurture a culture of compelling honesty.


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]]> Let’s be honest: an epidemic of lying is infecting public discourse. From political stages to policy debates, from newsfeeds to dinner tables, dishonesty has become disturbingly normalized. Many of us feel caught between exhaustion—burying our heads in the sand under the sheer volume of misinformation—and frustration as we scramble to correct falsehoods that seem endless. But here’s the hopeful truth: this is not inevitable. In this episode of The Space In Between, host Leigh Morgan offers four simple practices to help us turn the tide, strengthen our communities, bridge divides, and nurture a culture of compelling honesty.


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]]> false full 23 2 <![CDATA[Trailblazing Voices: Sportscaster Debbie Antonelli on Basketball, Leadership, and Service]]> How can sport bring us together across divides? Few voices in basketball carry as much weight, wisdom, and insight as Debbie Antonelli—who offers powerful lessons on leadership, service, and connection. As a trailblazing sportscaster, she has called games across NCAA women’s and men’s basketball, the WNBA, and even the NBA—breaking barriers and redefining what’s possible for women in broadcasting. Beyond her career behind the microphone, Debbie embodies leadership and service: championing the growth of women’s sports, raising millions for Special Olympics, and modeling what it looks like to lead with both grit and generosity. In this engaging episode, Debbie shares lessons from a lifetime in basketball—and how each of us can lead with courage and purpose.

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]]> Wed, 17 Sep 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 43:48 How can sport bring us together across divides? Few voices in basketball carry as much weight, wisdom, and insight as Debbie Antonelli—who offers powerful lessons on leadership, service, and connection. As a trailblazing sportscaster, she has called games across NCAA women’s and men’s basketball, the WNBA, and even the NBA—breaking barriers and redefining what’s possible for women in broadcasting. Beyond her career behind the microphone, Debbie embodies leadership and service: championing the growth of women’s sports, raising millions for Special Olympics, and modeling what it looks like to lead with both grit and generosity. In this engaging episode, Debbie shares lessons from a lifetime in basketball—and how each of us can lead with courage and purpose.

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]]> How can sport bring us together across divides? Few voices in basketball carry as much weight, wisdom, and insight as Debbie Antonelli—who offers powerful lessons on leadership, service, and connection. As a trailblazing sportscaster, she has called games across NCAA women’s and men’s basketball, the WNBA, and even the NBA—breaking barriers and redefining what’s possible for women in broadcasting. Beyond her career behind the microphone, Debbie embodies leadership and service: championing the growth of women’s sports, raising millions for Special Olympics, and modeling what it looks like to lead with both grit and generosity. In this engaging episode, Debbie shares lessons from a lifetime in basketball—and how each of us can lead with courage and purpose.

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]]> false full 22 2 <![CDATA[An Indigenous Approach to Conservation - with Valérie Courtois ]]> Indigenous-led conservation isn’t just a moral imperative—it’s one of the most effective strategies we have to protect biodiversity and live in reciprocity with our planet. In this episode of The Space In Between, I speak with Valérie Courtois, director of Canada’s Indigenous Leadership Initiative (ILI) and one of TIME magazine’s 100 most influential climate leaders in 2023. We explore how Indigenous guardianship, land “relationship” planning, and bold cross-sector alliances are reshaping conservation at scale—and how these approaches help us bridge divides and create life-affirming solutions for the future.

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]]> Wed, 10 Sep 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 47:52 Indigenous-led conservation isn’t just a moral imperative—it’s one of the most effective strategies we have to protect biodiversity and live in reciprocity with our planet. In this episode of The Space In Between, I speak with Valérie Courtois, director of Canada’s Indigenous Leadership Initiative (ILI) and one of TIME magazine’s 100 most influential climate leaders in 2023. We explore how Indigenous guardianship, land “relationship” planning, and bold cross-sector alliances are reshaping conservation at scale—and how these approaches help us bridge divides and create life-affirming solutions for the future.

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]]> Indigenous-led conservation isn’t just a moral imperative—it’s one of the most effective strategies we have to protect biodiversity and live in reciprocity with our planet. In this episode of The Space In Between, I speak with Valérie Courtois, director of Canada’s Indigenous Leadership Initiative (ILI) and one of TIME magazine’s 100 most influential climate leaders in 2023. We explore how Indigenous guardianship, land “relationship” planning, and bold cross-sector alliances are reshaping conservation at scale—and how these approaches help us bridge divides and create life-affirming solutions for the future.

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]]> false full 21 2 <![CDATA[Leigh's Leadership Lessons: Feeling Self-Righteous, Anyone?]]> We live in a time when it’s easier than ever to get swept up in outrage, division, and a sense of superiority. But here’s the truth: self-righteousness narrows and isolates, while true righteousness holds potential for grounding and connection - even across dimensions of difference. On this episode of The Space In Between, I explore the crucial difference between these two ways of being, why it matters so much right now, and how four simple practices that can help us stay in a mindset and heart-space where we can hold our convictions firmly while resisting the temptation to diminish others in the process.

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]]> Wed, 03 Sep 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 15:00 We live in a time when it’s easier than ever to get swept up in outrage, division, and a sense of superiority. But here’s the truth: self-righteousness narrows and isolates, while true righteousness holds potential for grounding and connection - even across dimensions of difference. On this episode of The Space In Between, I explore the crucial difference between these two ways of being, why it matters so much right now, and how four simple practices that can help us stay in a mindset and heart-space where we can hold our convictions firmly while resisting the temptation to diminish others in the process.

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]]> We live in a time when it’s easier than ever to get swept up in outrage, division, and a sense of superiority. But here’s the truth: self-righteousness narrows and isolates, while true righteousness holds potential for grounding and connection - even across dimensions of difference. On this episode of The Space In Between, I explore the crucial difference between these two ways of being, why it matters so much right now, and how four simple practices that can help us stay in a mindset and heart-space where we can hold our convictions firmly while resisting the temptation to diminish others in the process.

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]]> false full 20 2 <![CDATA[Faith, Values and Navigating Healthcare Challenges with Diankha Linear]]> If you want a clear, human view of America’s healthcare crossroads, this episode is for you. Swedish Health Services board chair Diankha Linear joins The Space In Between to unpack why the U.S. spends the most on care yet lags on health and well-being, what “value-based care” really means, and how this model can improve outcomes. We also explore how leaders can stay anchored in mission, navigate headwinds in a fast-shifting healthcare ecosystem, and deal with the impact of Medicaid budget cuts—which will ultimately raise costs for everyone. Diankha offers her take on how faith has sustained her fundamental belief in people, and shares some bright spots in healthcare and practical steps leaders, caregivers, and patients can take to improve outcomes, lower costs, and keep compassion and empathy at the center of care.

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]]> Wed, 27 Aug 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 46:14 If you want a clear, human view of America’s healthcare crossroads, this episode is for you. Swedish Health Services board chair Diankha Linear joins The Space In Between to unpack why the U.S. spends the most on care yet lags on health and well-being, what “value-based care” really means, and how this model can improve outcomes. We also explore how leaders can stay anchored in mission, navigate headwinds in a fast-shifting healthcare ecosystem, and deal with the impact of Medicaid budget cuts—which will ultimately raise costs for everyone. Diankha offers her take on how faith has sustained her fundamental belief in people, and shares some bright spots in healthcare and practical steps leaders, caregivers, and patients can take to improve outcomes, lower costs, and keep compassion and empathy at the center of care.

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]]> If you want a clear, human view of America’s healthcare crossroads, this episode is for you. Swedish Health Services board chair Diankha Linear joins The Space In Between to unpack why the U.S. spends the most on care yet lags on health and well-being, what “value-based care” really means, and how this model can improve outcomes. We also explore how leaders can stay anchored in mission, navigate headwinds in a fast-shifting healthcare ecosystem, and deal with the impact of Medicaid budget cuts—which will ultimately raise costs for everyone. Diankha offers her take on how faith has sustained her fundamental belief in people, and shares some bright spots in healthcare and practical steps leaders, caregivers, and patients can take to improve outcomes, lower costs, and keep compassion and empathy at the center of care.

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]]> false full 19 2 <![CDATA[How Women are Reshaping Media with Emily Parkhurst]]> The media landscape and industry is shifting beneath our feet—and with it, our sense of trust, truth, and community. In this fun and informative episode of The Space In Between, I sit down with veteran journalist, publisher and noted media executive Emily Parkhurst to explore how news is evolving, why it matters for democracy and daily life, and how a women’s lens changes the stories we tell and the voices we hear. Together, we unpack the decline of local journalism, the transformation of the media industry, the rise of social media and AI, and the urgent need for leaders—whether in newsrooms, classrooms, or boardrooms—to build trust through curiosity, courage, and listening across divides. 

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]]> Wed, 20 Aug 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 55:59 The media landscape and industry is shifting beneath our feet—and with it, our sense of trust, truth, and community. In this fun and informative episode of The Space In Between, I sit down with veteran journalist, publisher and noted media executive Emily Parkhurst to explore how news is evolving, why it matters for democracy and daily life, and how a women’s lens changes the stories we tell and the voices we hear. Together, we unpack the decline of local journalism, the transformation of the media industry, the rise of social media and AI, and the urgent need for leaders—whether in newsrooms, classrooms, or boardrooms—to build trust through curiosity, courage, and listening across divides. 

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]]> The media landscape and industry is shifting beneath our feet—and with it, our sense of trust, truth, and community. In this fun and informative episode of The Space In Between, I sit down with veteran journalist, publisher and noted media executive Emily Parkhurst to explore how news is evolving, why it matters for democracy and daily life, and how a women’s lens changes the stories we tell and the voices we hear. Together, we unpack the decline of local journalism, the transformation of the media industry, the rise of social media and AI, and the urgent need for leaders—whether in newsrooms, classrooms, or boardrooms—to build trust through curiosity, courage, and listening across divides. 

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]]> false full 18 2 <![CDATA[Leadership Masterclass with Everett Harper: Move to the Edge, Declare It Center ]]> When the world feels divided and uncertain, great leadership matters most. In this episode of The Space In Between, tech CEO and leadership wisdom-keeper Everett Harper joins me for a candid, deeply human conversation about leading with integrity in challenging times. Everett reflects on his journey as a trailblazer in sports, college, as an African American tech CEO, and on his track record of innovation in his remote-first company, Truss. He shares insights from his book Move to the Edge, Declare It Center, along with practical tools like the “pre-mortem” that help leaders navigate complexity, build trust, and connect across differences. We also explore ways leaders can improve effectiveness by making time to center and ground ourselves using simple, easy-to-do daily practices. This conversation is both practical and inspiring—a guide for leading with courage, clarity, and purpose in challenging times.

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]]> Wed, 13 Aug 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 51:47 When the world feels divided and uncertain, great leadership matters most. In this episode of The Space In Between, tech CEO and leadership wisdom-keeper Everett Harper joins me for a candid, deeply human conversation about leading with integrity in challenging times. Everett reflects on his journey as a trailblazer in sports, college, as an African American tech CEO, and on his track record of innovation in his remote-first company, Truss. He shares insights from his book Move to the Edge, Declare It Center, along with practical tools like the “pre-mortem” that help leaders navigate complexity, build trust, and connect across differences. We also explore ways leaders can improve effectiveness by making time to center and ground ourselves using simple, easy-to-do daily practices. This conversation is both practical and inspiring—a guide for leading with courage, clarity, and purpose in challenging times.

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]]> When the world feels divided and uncertain, great leadership matters most. In this episode of The Space In Between, tech CEO and leadership wisdom-keeper Everett Harper joins me for a candid, deeply human conversation about leading with integrity in challenging times. Everett reflects on his journey as a trailblazer in sports, college, as an African American tech CEO, and on his track record of innovation in his remote-first company, Truss. He shares insights from his book Move to the Edge, Declare It Center, along with practical tools like the “pre-mortem” that help leaders navigate complexity, build trust, and connect across differences. We also explore ways leaders can improve effectiveness by making time to center and ground ourselves using simple, easy-to-do daily practices. This conversation is both practical and inspiring—a guide for leading with courage, clarity, and purpose in challenging times.

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]]> false full 17 2 <![CDATA[A Unique Take on Who Should Run AI: With Liat Ben-Zur]]> In a time of dazzling technological breakthroughs and deepening divides, how do we ensure artificial intelligence (AI) serves society in ways that elevate humanity? What can be done to ensure the right people are leading in AI-based companies and that leaders are well prepared to navigate technological, moral and ethical dilemmas now and in the future?  In this episode of The Space In Between, I sat down with the brilliant and well-respected technologist Liat Ben-Zur to explore this question with both candor and nuance. With more than 25 years of leadership experience at companies like Microsoft, Philips, and Qualcomm, Liat brings a rare blend of deep tech fluency, moral clarity, and lived experience in all-things AI and leadership. Her take on who should run AI is important, powerful and prescient!

Liat shares four key messages that matter now more than ever:

  1. AI is not eliminating human leadership—it’s exposing it.
  2. Those on the margins often hold the wisdom we need most.
  3. Big tech’s choices matter—and so does ours.
  4. Leading in an AI era demands moral courage, radical empathy, and a refusal to stay silent.

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]]> Wed, 06 Aug 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 48:22 In a time of dazzling technological breakthroughs and deepening divides, how do we ensure artificial intelligence (AI) serves society in ways that elevate humanity? What can be done to ensure the right people are leading in AI-based companies and that leaders are well prepared to navigate technological, moral and ethical dilemmas now and in the future?  In this episode of The Space In Between, I sat down with the brilliant and well-respected technologist Liat Ben-Zur to explore this question with both candor and nuance. With more than 25 years of leadership experience at companies like Microsoft, Philips, and Qualcomm, Liat brings a rare blend of deep tech fluency, moral clarity, and lived experience in all-things AI and leadership. Her take on who should run AI is important, powerful and prescient!

Liat shares four key messages that matter now more than ever:

  1. AI is not eliminating human leadership—it’s exposing it.
  2. Those on the margins often hold the wisdom we need most.
  3. Big tech’s choices matter—and so does ours.
  4. Leading in an AI era demands moral courage, radical empathy, and a refusal to stay silent.

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]]> In a time of dazzling technological breakthroughs and deepening divides, how do we ensure artificial intelligence (AI) serves society in ways that elevate humanity? What can be done to ensure the right people are leading in AI-based companies and that leaders are well prepared to navigate technological, moral and ethical dilemmas now and in the future?  In this episode of The Space In Between, I sat down with the brilliant and well-respected technologist Liat Ben-Zur to explore this question with both candor and nuance. With more than 25 years of leadership experience at companies like Microsoft, Philips, and Qualcomm, Liat brings a rare blend of deep tech fluency, moral clarity, and lived experience in all-things AI and leadership. Her take on who should run AI is important, powerful and prescient!

Liat shares four key messages that matter now more than ever:

  1. AI is not eliminating human leadership—it’s exposing it.
  2. Those on the margins often hold the wisdom we need most.
  3. Big tech’s choices matter—and so does ours.
  4. Leading in an AI era demands moral courage, radical empathy, and a refusal to stay silent.

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]]> false full 16 2 <![CDATA[Leigh's Leadership Lessons: How To Do Endings Well]]> Most of us are wired to celebrate beginnings — a new job, a fresh relationship, the launch of a project. But what about endings? In this week’s episode of The Space In Between, I reflect on a rarely discussed yet vital topic: how to honor and 'do' endings well. Drawing from personal stories, social psychology research, and years of leadership experience, I explore why marking endings with intention helps us grow, find clarity, and step into what’s next with greater agency. Endings are not just about loss — they are also about transition, meaning, and the possibility of renewal. Learning to close chapters consciously is one of the most powerful things we can do to strengthening connection amidst fragmented times.

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]]> Wed, 30 Jul 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 14:10 Most of us are wired to celebrate beginnings — a new job, a fresh relationship, the launch of a project. But what about endings? In this week’s episode of The Space In Between, I reflect on a rarely discussed yet vital topic: how to honor and 'do' endings well. Drawing from personal stories, social psychology research, and years of leadership experience, I explore why marking endings with intention helps us grow, find clarity, and step into what’s next with greater agency. Endings are not just about loss — they are also about transition, meaning, and the possibility of renewal. Learning to close chapters consciously is one of the most powerful things we can do to strengthening connection amidst fragmented times.

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]]> Most of us are wired to celebrate beginnings — a new job, a fresh relationship, the launch of a project. But what about endings? In this week’s episode of The Space In Between, I reflect on a rarely discussed yet vital topic: how to honor and 'do' endings well. Drawing from personal stories, social psychology research, and years of leadership experience, I explore why marking endings with intention helps us grow, find clarity, and step into what’s next with greater agency. Endings are not just about loss — they are also about transition, meaning, and the possibility of renewal. Learning to close chapters consciously is one of the most powerful things we can do to strengthening connection amidst fragmented times.

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]]> false full 15 2 <![CDATA[Women's Sports Are Having a Moment - With Dawn Trudeau, Co-Owner of the Seattle Storm]]> In this episode of The Space In Between, I sat down with Dawn Trudeau—trailblazing civic leader, early Microsoft executive, and one of the majority owners of the WNBA’s Seattle Storm. We explored why women’s sports are having a cultural moment, how the Storm has built a franchise rooted in values and community, and what it takes to lead with conviction while bridging divides. From growing up in conservative Iowa to shaping tech and sports history, Dawn offers deeply personal lessons on believing in yourself, finding courage when the road ahead is unclear, and how she and her partners have built one of the WNBA's most successful franchises. Together, we unpack how the power women’s sports can bring people together during times of uncertainty and polarization.

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]]> Wed, 23 Jul 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 42:42 In this episode of The Space In Between, I sat down with Dawn Trudeau—trailblazing civic leader, early Microsoft executive, and one of the majority owners of the WNBA’s Seattle Storm. We explored why women’s sports are having a cultural moment, how the Storm has built a franchise rooted in values and community, and what it takes to lead with conviction while bridging divides. From growing up in conservative Iowa to shaping tech and sports history, Dawn offers deeply personal lessons on believing in yourself, finding courage when the road ahead is unclear, and how she and her partners have built one of the WNBA's most successful franchises. Together, we unpack how the power women’s sports can bring people together during times of uncertainty and polarization.

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]]> In this episode of The Space In Between, I sat down with Dawn Trudeau—trailblazing civic leader, early Microsoft executive, and one of the majority owners of the WNBA’s Seattle Storm. We explored why women’s sports are having a cultural moment, how the Storm has built a franchise rooted in values and community, and what it takes to lead with conviction while bridging divides. From growing up in conservative Iowa to shaping tech and sports history, Dawn offers deeply personal lessons on believing in yourself, finding courage when the road ahead is unclear, and how she and her partners have built one of the WNBA's most successful franchises. Together, we unpack how the power women’s sports can bring people together during times of uncertainty and polarization.

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]]> false full 14 2 <![CDATA[Leigh's Leadership Lessons: Watch Your Language!]]> In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh invites us to explore a subtle but powerful force shaping our personal and public lives: the language we use —especially when it slips into “all-or-nothing” thinking. From our workplaces and friendships to dinner table debates and political discourse, extreme language can harden our hearts, box us into limiting, binary choices, and disconnect us from seeing each other as fully human. The good news: with a little awareness and practice, we can shift our habits, soften our speech, and become leaders who inspire clarity, connection, and change. Leigh shares her reflections on how to avoid language traps and stay in nuance where innovation, wisdom, and high performing teams can thrive.

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]]> Wed, 16 Jul 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 12:13 In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh invites us to explore a subtle but powerful force shaping our personal and public lives: the language we use —especially when it slips into “all-or-nothing” thinking. From our workplaces and friendships to dinner table debates and political discourse, extreme language can harden our hearts, box us into limiting, binary choices, and disconnect us from seeing each other as fully human. The good news: with a little awareness and practice, we can shift our habits, soften our speech, and become leaders who inspire clarity, connection, and change. Leigh shares her reflections on how to avoid language traps and stay in nuance where innovation, wisdom, and high performing teams can thrive.

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]]> In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh invites us to explore a subtle but powerful force shaping our personal and public lives: the language we use —especially when it slips into “all-or-nothing” thinking. From our workplaces and friendships to dinner table debates and political discourse, extreme language can harden our hearts, box us into limiting, binary choices, and disconnect us from seeing each other as fully human. The good news: with a little awareness and practice, we can shift our habits, soften our speech, and become leaders who inspire clarity, connection, and change. Leigh shares her reflections on how to avoid language traps and stay in nuance where innovation, wisdom, and high performing teams can thrive.

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]]> false full 13 2 <![CDATA[Demystifying Public Health - And Why It Matters For Mental Health]]> Back by popular demand! This engaging podcast explores our mental health from a public health perspective, and how, in a post-COVID world, we can avoid reaching polarizing ‘boiling points’ and reduce the experience of isolation and fragmentation across communities.  Host Leigh Morgan explores this topic in-depth with a an internationally recognized global leader and expert, Dr. Dani Fallin, who is Dean of the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University. Dr. Fallon defines what a population approach to mental health is, and how it helps us understand the how polarization starts and is amplified across society. She also shares specific strategies to build stronger, sustainable connections across dimensions of difference. 

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]]> Wed, 09 Jul 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 50:44 Back by popular demand! This engaging podcast explores our mental health from a public health perspective, and how, in a post-COVID world, we can avoid reaching polarizing ‘boiling points’ and reduce the experience of isolation and fragmentation across communities.  Host Leigh Morgan explores this topic in-depth with a an internationally recognized global leader and expert, Dr. Dani Fallin, who is Dean of the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University. Dr. Fallon defines what a population approach to mental health is, and how it helps us understand the how polarization starts and is amplified across society. She also shares specific strategies to build stronger, sustainable connections across dimensions of difference. 

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]]> Back by popular demand! This engaging podcast explores our mental health from a public health perspective, and how, in a post-COVID world, we can avoid reaching polarizing ‘boiling points’ and reduce the experience of isolation and fragmentation across communities.  Host Leigh Morgan explores this topic in-depth with a an internationally recognized global leader and expert, Dr. Dani Fallin, who is Dean of the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University. Dr. Fallon defines what a population approach to mental health is, and how it helps us understand the how polarization starts and is amplified across society. She also shares specific strategies to build stronger, sustainable connections across dimensions of difference. 

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]]> false full 12 2 <![CDATA[How the U.S. Reputation Is Changing on the Global Stage – with Ambassador Suzi LeVine]]> In this interesting and timely episode of The Space In Between podcast, I sit down with the Honorable Suzi LeVine, former Ambassador to Switzerland, to explore the changing role of the United States on the global stage, the intersection of public and private leadership, and the nuanced art of bridging divides during times of disruption. With decades of experience across government, diplomacy, and the tech sector, Suzi brings insight, clarity, and grounded optimism to a moment that demands all three. She also drops some keen insights about the role of ambassadors and how she navigated tricky labor relations and geopolitical issues - and set structures where divides could be addressed which have sustained through multiple administrations. 

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]]> Wed, 02 Jul 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 48:56 In this interesting and timely episode of The Space In Between podcast, I sit down with the Honorable Suzi LeVine, former Ambassador to Switzerland, to explore the changing role of the United States on the global stage, the intersection of public and private leadership, and the nuanced art of bridging divides during times of disruption. With decades of experience across government, diplomacy, and the tech sector, Suzi brings insight, clarity, and grounded optimism to a moment that demands all three. She also drops some keen insights about the role of ambassadors and how she navigated tricky labor relations and geopolitical issues - and set structures where divides could be addressed which have sustained through multiple administrations. 

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]]> In this interesting and timely episode of The Space In Between podcast, I sit down with the Honorable Suzi LeVine, former Ambassador to Switzerland, to explore the changing role of the United States on the global stage, the intersection of public and private leadership, and the nuanced art of bridging divides during times of disruption. With decades of experience across government, diplomacy, and the tech sector, Suzi brings insight, clarity, and grounded optimism to a moment that demands all three. She also drops some keen insights about the role of ambassadors and how she navigated tricky labor relations and geopolitical issues - and set structures where divides could be addressed which have sustained through multiple administrations. 

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]]> false full 11 2 <![CDATA[What You Should Know About Climate Change with Aimée Christensen]]> On this week’s episode of The Space In Between, Leigh sat down with Aimée Christensen — a longtime and noted climate leader, bridge-builder, and someone whose roots run deep in both global halls of power and the soils of Idaho, her beloved home state. With active retrenchment by the current administration in the fight against global warming in full swing, this episode is key for anyone wanting the 'real story' on what is, and is not happening, on climate change. My conversation with Aimée is rich with wisdom, clarity, and the kind of insight that comes only from decades of doing work and bringing people together across divides on this evocative issue.

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]]> Wed, 25 Jun 2025 11:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 51:42 On this week’s episode of The Space In Between, Leigh sat down with Aimée Christensen — a longtime and noted climate leader, bridge-builder, and someone whose roots run deep in both global halls of power and the soils of Idaho, her beloved home state. With active retrenchment by the current administration in the fight against global warming in full swing, this episode is key for anyone wanting the 'real story' on what is, and is not happening, on climate change. My conversation with Aimée is rich with wisdom, clarity, and the kind of insight that comes only from decades of doing work and bringing people together across divides on this evocative issue.

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]]> On this week’s episode of The Space In Between, Leigh sat down with Aimée Christensen — a longtime and noted climate leader, bridge-builder, and someone whose roots run deep in both global halls of power and the soils of Idaho, her beloved home state. With active retrenchment by the current administration in the fight against global warming in full swing, this episode is key for anyone wanting the 'real story' on what is, and is not happening, on climate change. My conversation with Aimée is rich with wisdom, clarity, and the kind of insight that comes only from decades of doing work and bringing people together across divides on this evocative issue.

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]]> false full 10 2 <![CDATA[Leigh's Leadership Lessons: Turning the Tide on Grievance Culture]]> In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh explores the concept of grievance—a mix of resentment and unmet expectations that, when left unresolved, erodes trust and connection. Drawing on sobering data from the 2025 Edelman Trust Barometer, she highlights how widespread grievance is fueling distrust, polarization, and fragmentation across society. Through personal stories and leadership lessons, Leigh offers three powerful practices to help shift this culture: pause before reacting, practice daily gratitude, and seek out other seekers. Listeners are reminded that even in divided times, small, intentional acts of compassion and civility can rebuild trust and plant seeds for healing.

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]]> Wed, 18 Jun 2025 12:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 13:23 In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh explores the concept of grievance—a mix of resentment and unmet expectations that, when left unresolved, erodes trust and connection. Drawing on sobering data from the 2025 Edelman Trust Barometer, she highlights how widespread grievance is fueling distrust, polarization, and fragmentation across society. Through personal stories and leadership lessons, Leigh offers three powerful practices to help shift this culture: pause before reacting, practice daily gratitude, and seek out other seekers. Listeners are reminded that even in divided times, small, intentional acts of compassion and civility can rebuild trust and plant seeds for healing.

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]]> In this episode of The Space In Between, Leigh explores the concept of grievance—a mix of resentment and unmet expectations that, when left unresolved, erodes trust and connection. Drawing on sobering data from the 2025 Edelman Trust Barometer, she highlights how widespread grievance is fueling distrust, polarization, and fragmentation across society. Through personal stories and leadership lessons, Leigh offers three powerful practices to help shift this culture: pause before reacting, practice daily gratitude, and seek out other seekers. Listeners are reminded that even in divided times, small, intentional acts of compassion and civility can rebuild trust and plant seeds for healing.

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]]> false full 9 2 <![CDATA[What the Heck Is Going on in Higher Ed? A Conversation with Education Leader Ann Kirschner, PhD.]]> The U.S. higher education sector is undergoing profound transformation — and not always by choice. At the intersection of political ideology, funding cuts, and rapidly shifting technologies, colleges and universities find themselves caught in a storm of scrutiny, resentment, and reinvention. From heated debates over diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) to questions about the value of degrees and the impact of AI, higher ed is at a crossroads like never before.

In this timely episode, I sat down with the remarkable Ann Kirschner — entrepreneur, academic leader, innovator, and storyteller — to explore what’s really happening across the landscape of American higher education, and what can be done to bridge divides and find practical, creative ways for higher ed to provide value to all students regardless of economic background or identity. Ann, who has served in leadership roles at institutions like CUNY, ASU, and Hunter College, brings not only sharp insight but a deep personal connection to the American education story.

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]]> Wed, 11 Jun 2025 11:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 44:24 The U.S. higher education sector is undergoing profound transformation — and not always by choice. At the intersection of political ideology, funding cuts, and rapidly shifting technologies, colleges and universities find themselves caught in a storm of scrutiny, resentment, and reinvention. From heated debates over diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) to questions about the value of degrees and the impact of AI, higher ed is at a crossroads like never before.

In this timely episode, I sat down with the remarkable Ann Kirschner — entrepreneur, academic leader, innovator, and storyteller — to explore what’s really happening across the landscape of American higher education, and what can be done to bridge divides and find practical, creative ways for higher ed to provide value to all students regardless of economic background or identity. Ann, who has served in leadership roles at institutions like CUNY, ASU, and Hunter College, brings not only sharp insight but a deep personal connection to the American education story.

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]]> The U.S. higher education sector is undergoing profound transformation — and not always by choice. At the intersection of political ideology, funding cuts, and rapidly shifting technologies, colleges and universities find themselves caught in a storm of scrutiny, resentment, and reinvention. From heated debates over diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) to questions about the value of degrees and the impact of AI, higher ed is at a crossroads like never before.

In this timely episode, I sat down with the remarkable Ann Kirschner — entrepreneur, academic leader, innovator, and storyteller — to explore what’s really happening across the landscape of American higher education, and what can be done to bridge divides and find practical, creative ways for higher ed to provide value to all students regardless of economic background or identity. Ann, who has served in leadership roles at institutions like CUNY, ASU, and Hunter College, brings not only sharp insight but a deep personal connection to the American education story.

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]]> false full 8 2 <![CDATA[Leigh's Leadership Lessons: The Space In Between is NOT the Middle of Anything]]> The Space in Between isn’t about finding the middle — it’s about having the courage to stand in the tension between opposing views, where real growth and innovation happen. In a world that often pressures us to pick a side, this podcast explores what it means to stay present, curious, and open in the face of complexity. It’s a space that invites deep listening, humility, and the willingness to hold multiple truths at once. While it can be uncomfortable, it’s also where creativity thrives and where more humane, effective leadership is born. The goal is to create spaces — in life, work, and society — where nuance is welcomed and transformative ideas can take root.

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]]> Wed, 04 Jun 2025 11:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 12:20 The Space in Between isn’t about finding the middle — it’s about having the courage to stand in the tension between opposing views, where real growth and innovation happen. In a world that often pressures us to pick a side, this podcast explores what it means to stay present, curious, and open in the face of complexity. It’s a space that invites deep listening, humility, and the willingness to hold multiple truths at once. While it can be uncomfortable, it’s also where creativity thrives and where more humane, effective leadership is born. The goal is to create spaces — in life, work, and society — where nuance is welcomed and transformative ideas can take root.

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]]> The Space in Between isn’t about finding the middle — it’s about having the courage to stand in the tension between opposing views, where real growth and innovation happen. In a world that often pressures us to pick a side, this podcast explores what it means to stay present, curious, and open in the face of complexity. It’s a space that invites deep listening, humility, and the willingness to hold multiple truths at once. While it can be uncomfortable, it’s also where creativity thrives and where more humane, effective leadership is born. The goal is to create spaces — in life, work, and society — where nuance is welcomed and transformative ideas can take root.

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]]> false full 7 2 <![CDATA[Taxes: A Candid Conversation with Conservative Innovator Matt McIllwain]]> In this episode, host Leigh Morgan welcomes Matt McIlwain—managing director at Madrona Venture Group, respected civic leader in Seattle, and fellow board member at the Fred Hutch Cancer Center—for a thoughtful and deeply human conversation. Together, they explore questions at the intersection of tax policy, constructive dialogue, and the responsibilities we carry as citizens navigating a polarized time. While their views on policy may differ they both have a shared commitment to curiosity, listening, and mutual respect provided a model for how to talk through even the most emotive and controversial topics. One of those topics, tax policy, is often treated as a battleground. But in this exchange, it became a topic for learning.


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]]> Wed, 28 May 2025 11:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 54:21 In this episode, host Leigh Morgan welcomes Matt McIlwain—managing director at Madrona Venture Group, respected civic leader in Seattle, and fellow board member at the Fred Hutch Cancer Center—for a thoughtful and deeply human conversation. Together, they explore questions at the intersection of tax policy, constructive dialogue, and the responsibilities we carry as citizens navigating a polarized time. While their views on policy may differ they both have a shared commitment to curiosity, listening, and mutual respect provided a model for how to talk through even the most emotive and controversial topics. One of those topics, tax policy, is often treated as a battleground. But in this exchange, it became a topic for learning.


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]]> In this episode, host Leigh Morgan welcomes Matt McIlwain—managing director at Madrona Venture Group, respected civic leader in Seattle, and fellow board member at the Fred Hutch Cancer Center—for a thoughtful and deeply human conversation. Together, they explore questions at the intersection of tax policy, constructive dialogue, and the responsibilities we carry as citizens navigating a polarized time. While their views on policy may differ they both have a shared commitment to curiosity, listening, and mutual respect provided a model for how to talk through even the most emotive and controversial topics. One of those topics, tax policy, is often treated as a battleground. But in this exchange, it became a topic for learning.


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]]> false full 6 2 <![CDATA[Leigh's Leadership Lessons: Seek Other Seekers]]> On today’s episode, I explore what it means to seek out fellow seekers in a time of deep division. Seekers are people who are curious, open-minded, and committed to learning—by instinct and by choice. If you’re listening to this podcast, chances are you’re a seeker too. I share a personal story about an unexpected and meaningful connection with my March 19th podcast guest, Lemon Price. Lemon is a fellow seeker who happens to hold very different political views than I do. She is an avid Trump supporter, and is thoughtful about why. Her story, and our dialogue,  reminded me that seekers come from all walks of life—and that meaningful connection across ideological lines is not only possible, it’s essential. Enjoy the episode!

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]]> Wed, 21 May 2025 10:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 7:39 On today’s episode, I explore what it means to seek out fellow seekers in a time of deep division. Seekers are people who are curious, open-minded, and committed to learning—by instinct and by choice. If you’re listening to this podcast, chances are you’re a seeker too. I share a personal story about an unexpected and meaningful connection with my March 19th podcast guest, Lemon Price. Lemon is a fellow seeker who happens to hold very different political views than I do. She is an avid Trump supporter, and is thoughtful about why. Her story, and our dialogue,  reminded me that seekers come from all walks of life—and that meaningful connection across ideological lines is not only possible, it’s essential. Enjoy the episode!

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]]> On today’s episode, I explore what it means to seek out fellow seekers in a time of deep division. Seekers are people who are curious, open-minded, and committed to learning—by instinct and by choice. If you’re listening to this podcast, chances are you’re a seeker too. I share a personal story about an unexpected and meaningful connection with my March 19th podcast guest, Lemon Price. Lemon is a fellow seeker who happens to hold very different political views than I do. She is an avid Trump supporter, and is thoughtful about why. Her story, and our dialogue,  reminded me that seekers come from all walks of life—and that meaningful connection across ideological lines is not only possible, it’s essential. Enjoy the episode!

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]]> false full 5 2 <![CDATA[Everything You Wanted to Know About AI & Implications for Bridging Divides - A Conversation with AI Investor Heather Redman]]> AI technologies promise to revolutionize societies, economies, and interpersonal connections by affecting how organizations and individuals interact. In this episode, host Leigh Morgan leads a compelling conversation with noted AI & tech investor Heather Redman on these critical topics. Heather gives an insightful overview of the current state of AI and its implications for business, society, and the risks and opportunities that are on the radar. The discussion also touches on interesting use-cases for AI that are seriously mind blowing.  Leigh and Heather also explore moral and ethical considerations of general AI and how – despite many risks to the contrary – AI tools can be used to bridge societal divides by making information more ubiquitous and accessible. 

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]]> Wed, 14 May 2025 10:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 37:49 AI technologies promise to revolutionize societies, economies, and interpersonal connections by affecting how organizations and individuals interact. In this episode, host Leigh Morgan leads a compelling conversation with noted AI & tech investor Heather Redman on these critical topics. Heather gives an insightful overview of the current state of AI and its implications for business, society, and the risks and opportunities that are on the radar. The discussion also touches on interesting use-cases for AI that are seriously mind blowing.  Leigh and Heather also explore moral and ethical considerations of general AI and how – despite many risks to the contrary – AI tools can be used to bridge societal divides by making information more ubiquitous and accessible. 

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]]> AI technologies promise to revolutionize societies, economies, and interpersonal connections by affecting how organizations and individuals interact. In this episode, host Leigh Morgan leads a compelling conversation with noted AI & tech investor Heather Redman on these critical topics. Heather gives an insightful overview of the current state of AI and its implications for business, society, and the risks and opportunities that are on the radar. The discussion also touches on interesting use-cases for AI that are seriously mind blowing.  Leigh and Heather also explore moral and ethical considerations of general AI and how – despite many risks to the contrary – AI tools can be used to bridge societal divides by making information more ubiquitous and accessible. 

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]]> false full 4 2 <![CDATA[A New Paradigm for Leadership in an Age of AI with Christie Smith, PhD.]]> In an age where artificial intelligence is significantly transforming industries and our daily lives, the role of leadership in organizations is undergoing rapid transformation. In this episode of The Space In Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan welcomes Christie Smith, a noted thought leader in leadership and organizational performance, to discuss the need for a new paradigm in leadership. Christie's new book, *Essential: How Distributed Teams, Generative AI, and Global Shifts Are Creating a New Human-Powered Leadership*, challenges the conventions of twentieth-century leadership and presents a framework for a future where AI tools and technology touches all parts of our lives and work. The conversation goes deep, and together Leigh and Christie explore leader's impact not just in the workplace, but in helping build bridges in all walks of life.

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]]> Wed, 07 May 2025 10:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 46:26 In an age where artificial intelligence is significantly transforming industries and our daily lives, the role of leadership in organizations is undergoing rapid transformation. In this episode of The Space In Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan welcomes Christie Smith, a noted thought leader in leadership and organizational performance, to discuss the need for a new paradigm in leadership. Christie's new book, *Essential: How Distributed Teams, Generative AI, and Global Shifts Are Creating a New Human-Powered Leadership*, challenges the conventions of twentieth-century leadership and presents a framework for a future where AI tools and technology touches all parts of our lives and work. The conversation goes deep, and together Leigh and Christie explore leader's impact not just in the workplace, but in helping build bridges in all walks of life.

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]]> In an age where artificial intelligence is significantly transforming industries and our daily lives, the role of leadership in organizations is undergoing rapid transformation. In this episode of The Space In Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan welcomes Christie Smith, a noted thought leader in leadership and organizational performance, to discuss the need for a new paradigm in leadership. Christie's new book, *Essential: How Distributed Teams, Generative AI, and Global Shifts Are Creating a New Human-Powered Leadership*, challenges the conventions of twentieth-century leadership and presents a framework for a future where AI tools and technology touches all parts of our lives and work. The conversation goes deep, and together Leigh and Christie explore leader's impact not just in the workplace, but in helping build bridges in all walks of life.

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]]> false full 3 2 <![CDATA[Leigh's Leadership Lessons: The Transformational Power of Knowing Your 'Boiling Points']]> In this episode, I reflect on a few powerful moments I’ve experienced as host of The Space In Between. I also explore a core theme from Season I: how self-awareness is essential for both taking principled stands on the issues we care about and finding ways to bridge divides. A key concept is understanding our personal 'boiling points'—those moments when we’re so emotionally charged that our ability to engage empathetically with others is limited. Knowing our boiling points gives us agency to make choices about when, and how to dialogue with people who have different views.  Join me as I unpack this important topic.


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]]> Wed, 30 Apr 2025 10:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 10:57 In this episode, I reflect on a few powerful moments I’ve experienced as host of The Space In Between. I also explore a core theme from Season I: how self-awareness is essential for both taking principled stands on the issues we care about and finding ways to bridge divides. A key concept is understanding our personal 'boiling points'—those moments when we’re so emotionally charged that our ability to engage empathetically with others is limited. Knowing our boiling points gives us agency to make choices about when, and how to dialogue with people who have different views.  Join me as I unpack this important topic.


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]]> In this episode, I reflect on a few powerful moments I’ve experienced as host of The Space In Between. I also explore a core theme from Season I: how self-awareness is essential for both taking principled stands on the issues we care about and finding ways to bridge divides. A key concept is understanding our personal 'boiling points'—those moments when we’re so emotionally charged that our ability to engage empathetically with others is limited. Knowing our boiling points gives us agency to make choices about when, and how to dialogue with people who have different views.  Join me as I unpack this important topic.


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]]> false full 2 2 <![CDATA[Staying High Agency in Challenging Times: A Leadership Masterclass with Shelmina Abji, Author of 'Show Your Worth']]> Today's episode is an exploration of empowerment, leadership, and the transformative power of intentionality in today’s hyper polarized world. Leigh's guest today is a truly inspirational leader - the incomparable Shelmina Abji.  Shelmina’s journey from humble beginnings in Tanzania to becoming a top executive at IBM serves as a beacon for aspiring leaders everywhere, as does her best-selling book Show Your Worth.  Leigh and Shelmina dive into the complexities of our dynamic world, and talk about how to stay in your ‘power quotient’ – a place of high agency and intention regardless of the circumstances that work, life, or elections bring. They also discuss how women at all stages of their careers can literally 'show their worth' and navigate the complexities of lingering gender disparities in the workplace. This is a fantastic episode – enjoy!  

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]]> Wed, 23 Apr 2025 10:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 47:55 Today's episode is an exploration of empowerment, leadership, and the transformative power of intentionality in today’s hyper polarized world. Leigh's guest today is a truly inspirational leader - the incomparable Shelmina Abji.  Shelmina’s journey from humble beginnings in Tanzania to becoming a top executive at IBM serves as a beacon for aspiring leaders everywhere, as does her best-selling book Show Your Worth.  Leigh and Shelmina dive into the complexities of our dynamic world, and talk about how to stay in your ‘power quotient’ – a place of high agency and intention regardless of the circumstances that work, life, or elections bring. They also discuss how women at all stages of their careers can literally 'show their worth' and navigate the complexities of lingering gender disparities in the workplace. This is a fantastic episode – enjoy!  

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]]> Today's episode is an exploration of empowerment, leadership, and the transformative power of intentionality in today’s hyper polarized world. Leigh's guest today is a truly inspirational leader - the incomparable Shelmina Abji.  Shelmina’s journey from humble beginnings in Tanzania to becoming a top executive at IBM serves as a beacon for aspiring leaders everywhere, as does her best-selling book Show Your Worth.  Leigh and Shelmina dive into the complexities of our dynamic world, and talk about how to stay in your ‘power quotient’ – a place of high agency and intention regardless of the circumstances that work, life, or elections bring. They also discuss how women at all stages of their careers can literally 'show their worth' and navigate the complexities of lingering gender disparities in the workplace. This is a fantastic episode – enjoy!  

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]]> false full 2 2 <![CDATA[Introduction to Season 2: The Space In Between Podcast]]> Support the show

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]]> false full 1 2 <![CDATA[A VERY Spirited Discussion About 'Wokeness' with Sally Kohn, Author & former FOX News Contributor]]> In a world increasingly divided by political and social ideologies, it's crucial to explore topics that might seem polarizing but are deeply impactful.  This week, we continue dialogue on a topic adjacent to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI): ‘Wokeness’.  Join host Leigh Morgan delves into these complex themes with guest Sally Kohn, former FOX News contributor, media coach, TED speaker and author of "The Opposite of Hate." Sally shares her take on wokeness, the new administration, structural dimensions of inequality and how, despite deep divisions in society, we can bridge divides and not surrender one's values.

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]]> Wed, 09 Apr 2025 13:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 44:42 In a world increasingly divided by political and social ideologies, it's crucial to explore topics that might seem polarizing but are deeply impactful.  This week, we continue dialogue on a topic adjacent to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI): ‘Wokeness’.  Join host Leigh Morgan delves into these complex themes with guest Sally Kohn, former FOX News contributor, media coach, TED speaker and author of "The Opposite of Hate." Sally shares her take on wokeness, the new administration, structural dimensions of inequality and how, despite deep divisions in society, we can bridge divides and not surrender one's values.

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]]> In a world increasingly divided by political and social ideologies, it's crucial to explore topics that might seem polarizing but are deeply impactful.  This week, we continue dialogue on a topic adjacent to diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI): ‘Wokeness’.  Join host Leigh Morgan delves into these complex themes with guest Sally Kohn, former FOX News contributor, media coach, TED speaker and author of "The Opposite of Hate." Sally shares her take on wokeness, the new administration, structural dimensions of inequality and how, despite deep divisions in society, we can bridge divides and not surrender one's values.

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]]> false full 25 1 <![CDATA[An Oath to the Constitution: Perspectives from a Female Attack Helicopter Pilot]]> In light of recent controversy about the Dept. of Defense leaders & other cabinet members conducting classified war planning in an unsecure text app #SignalGate - I'm reposting a powerful episode of The Space In Between Podcast  that showcases the very best of our armed forces and integrity-based leadership. I speak with retired Major Hartleigh Caine about her experience in the Army and what it means to take an oath to support the Constitution in a world that can often feel divisive and lacking unity. Major Caine, an Apache attack helicopter pilot and decorated combat veteran, shares her remarkable journey from West Point to Iraq and Afghanistan, along with the many lessons she has learned about bringing men and women from diverse backgrounds together in highly stressful and often dangerous circumstances. She also discusses navigating her role as one of the very few female commanders and pilots in two wartime settings and shares rationale for her belief that the military’s oath and mission-based orientation will continue to transcend the political divides that too often dominate today’s culture.

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]]> Wed, 02 Apr 2025 10:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 41:19 In light of recent controversy about the Dept. of Defense leaders & other cabinet members conducting classified war planning in an unsecure text app #SignalGate - I'm reposting a powerful episode of The Space In Between Podcast  that showcases the very best of our armed forces and integrity-based leadership. I speak with retired Major Hartleigh Caine about her experience in the Army and what it means to take an oath to support the Constitution in a world that can often feel divisive and lacking unity. Major Caine, an Apache attack helicopter pilot and decorated combat veteran, shares her remarkable journey from West Point to Iraq and Afghanistan, along with the many lessons she has learned about bringing men and women from diverse backgrounds together in highly stressful and often dangerous circumstances. She also discusses navigating her role as one of the very few female commanders and pilots in two wartime settings and shares rationale for her belief that the military’s oath and mission-based orientation will continue to transcend the political divides that too often dominate today’s culture.

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]]> In light of recent controversy about the Dept. of Defense leaders & other cabinet members conducting classified war planning in an unsecure text app #SignalGate - I'm reposting a powerful episode of The Space In Between Podcast  that showcases the very best of our armed forces and integrity-based leadership. I speak with retired Major Hartleigh Caine about her experience in the Army and what it means to take an oath to support the Constitution in a world that can often feel divisive and lacking unity. Major Caine, an Apache attack helicopter pilot and decorated combat veteran, shares her remarkable journey from West Point to Iraq and Afghanistan, along with the many lessons she has learned about bringing men and women from diverse backgrounds together in highly stressful and often dangerous circumstances. She also discusses navigating her role as one of the very few female commanders and pilots in two wartime settings and shares rationale for her belief that the military’s oath and mission-based orientation will continue to transcend the political divides that too often dominate today’s culture.

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]]> false full 23 1 <![CDATA[A Candid Conversation about Diversity Equity & Inclusion (DEI) with Sandy Mollett]]> In this really interesting episode of "The Space In Between Podcast", host Leigh Morgan sat down with Sandy Mollett, a distinguished thought leader in Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). Mollett, known for her extensive experience as a corporate executive and bridge builder across divides, shares her insights into the complex landscape of DEI in today’s often polarized world. Leigh and Sandy go deep, exploring the evolution of DEI, why the topic is so controversial and evokes strong reactions across the political spectrum.  They also consider how to actually cultivate connection with folks who are big supporters of DEI’s aspirations and those who think DEI is the worst thing in the world.  Join us for a great episode!

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]]> Mon, 31 Mar 2025 14:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 45:55 In this really interesting episode of "The Space In Between Podcast", host Leigh Morgan sat down with Sandy Mollett, a distinguished thought leader in Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). Mollett, known for her extensive experience as a corporate executive and bridge builder across divides, shares her insights into the complex landscape of DEI in today’s often polarized world. Leigh and Sandy go deep, exploring the evolution of DEI, why the topic is so controversial and evokes strong reactions across the political spectrum.  They also consider how to actually cultivate connection with folks who are big supporters of DEI’s aspirations and those who think DEI is the worst thing in the world.  Join us for a great episode!

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]]> In this really interesting episode of "The Space In Between Podcast", host Leigh Morgan sat down with Sandy Mollett, a distinguished thought leader in Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI). Mollett, known for her extensive experience as a corporate executive and bridge builder across divides, shares her insights into the complex landscape of DEI in today’s often polarized world. Leigh and Sandy go deep, exploring the evolution of DEI, why the topic is so controversial and evokes strong reactions across the political spectrum.  They also consider how to actually cultivate connection with folks who are big supporters of DEI’s aspirations and those who think DEI is the worst thing in the world.  Join us for a great episode!

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]]> false full 22 1 <![CDATA[Real Talk Across Political Divides: Insights from a Trump Supporter]]> In this episode of The Space In Between podcast, host Leigh Morgan welcomes Lemon Price—an incredibly popular podcaster, entrepreneur, and social media influencer from southeast Georgia—to explore her perspectives on Trump and the MAGA movement. Lemon shares her faith-inspired journey from supporting Obama in two elections to voting for Trump in 2016 and 2024. She reflects on her commitment to women's empowerment and why she stands behind many (but not all) of Trump's policies and isn't very concerned about his tone and penchant for lying. This enlightening conversation demonstrates the power of dialogue across ideological differences, and how trust can create opportunities for understanding. Whether you can’t stand Trump or you support his presidency – this conversation is a critical 'must listen' for all!

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]]> Wed, 19 Mar 2025 10:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 50:06 In this episode of The Space In Between podcast, host Leigh Morgan welcomes Lemon Price—an incredibly popular podcaster, entrepreneur, and social media influencer from southeast Georgia—to explore her perspectives on Trump and the MAGA movement. Lemon shares her faith-inspired journey from supporting Obama in two elections to voting for Trump in 2016 and 2024. She reflects on her commitment to women's empowerment and why she stands behind many (but not all) of Trump's policies and isn't very concerned about his tone and penchant for lying. This enlightening conversation demonstrates the power of dialogue across ideological differences, and how trust can create opportunities for understanding. Whether you can’t stand Trump or you support his presidency – this conversation is a critical 'must listen' for all!

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]]> In this episode of The Space In Between podcast, host Leigh Morgan welcomes Lemon Price—an incredibly popular podcaster, entrepreneur, and social media influencer from southeast Georgia—to explore her perspectives on Trump and the MAGA movement. Lemon shares her faith-inspired journey from supporting Obama in two elections to voting for Trump in 2016 and 2024. She reflects on her commitment to women's empowerment and why she stands behind many (but not all) of Trump's policies and isn't very concerned about his tone and penchant for lying. This enlightening conversation demonstrates the power of dialogue across ideological differences, and how trust can create opportunities for understanding. Whether you can’t stand Trump or you support his presidency – this conversation is a critical 'must listen' for all!

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]]> false full 21 1 <![CDATA[Leadership Masterclass: A Call for Reflective Practice with Kaye Foster]]> In a world marked by increasing polarization and fragmentation, effective leadership demands the ability to navigate complexity, make informed decisions, and maintain perspective amidst relentless change and pressure. How can leaders rise to the occasion, stay grounded, and drive performance?

My guest, Kaye Foster, offers deep insights and wisdom on this very topic. As one of the corporate sector’s most respected and inspiring leaders, Foster draws from her faith practice and unwavering commitment to helping her portfolio companies, colleagues, and clients reach their fullest potential. She emphasizes the importance of grounding leadership in core beliefs and values, which, in turn, shape decision-making and behavior. Through compelling examples, she illustrates how this approach fosters resilience and purpose. She also shares her personal journey as an immigrant who ascended to the highest levels of the corporate and venture capital sectors.

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]]> Wed, 12 Mar 2025 09:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 48:24 In a world marked by increasing polarization and fragmentation, effective leadership demands the ability to navigate complexity, make informed decisions, and maintain perspective amidst relentless change and pressure. How can leaders rise to the occasion, stay grounded, and drive performance?

My guest, Kaye Foster, offers deep insights and wisdom on this very topic. As one of the corporate sector’s most respected and inspiring leaders, Foster draws from her faith practice and unwavering commitment to helping her portfolio companies, colleagues, and clients reach their fullest potential. She emphasizes the importance of grounding leadership in core beliefs and values, which, in turn, shape decision-making and behavior. Through compelling examples, she illustrates how this approach fosters resilience and purpose. She also shares her personal journey as an immigrant who ascended to the highest levels of the corporate and venture capital sectors.

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]]> In a world marked by increasing polarization and fragmentation, effective leadership demands the ability to navigate complexity, make informed decisions, and maintain perspective amidst relentless change and pressure. How can leaders rise to the occasion, stay grounded, and drive performance?

My guest, Kaye Foster, offers deep insights and wisdom on this very topic. As one of the corporate sector’s most respected and inspiring leaders, Foster draws from her faith practice and unwavering commitment to helping her portfolio companies, colleagues, and clients reach their fullest potential. She emphasizes the importance of grounding leadership in core beliefs and values, which, in turn, shape decision-making and behavior. Through compelling examples, she illustrates how this approach fosters resilience and purpose. She also shares her personal journey as an immigrant who ascended to the highest levels of the corporate and venture capital sectors.

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]]> false full 20 1 <![CDATA[A Big, Bold Vision for Humans on the Moon with Dr. Lakshmi Karan ]]>

Today's episode is epic! Join guest Dr. Lakshmi Karan, alongside her fellow visionaries at LunArc, is pioneering a movement that reframes our approach to space travel. Their goal is to ensure that humanity's journey to the moon transcends mere technological achievement, becoming instead an exercise in cooperation, humility, and democratic participation. We get 'the basics' from Dr. Karan on the status of space exploration, LunArc's key role, how she thinks about space exploration at a time of great polarization here on earth. Some serious wisdom is dropped about not just a future in space, but how to bridge divides here at home. 


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Today's episode is epic! Join guest Dr. Lakshmi Karan, alongside her fellow visionaries at LunArc, is pioneering a movement that reframes our approach to space travel. Their goal is to ensure that humanity's journey to the moon transcends mere technological achievement, becoming instead an exercise in cooperation, humility, and democratic participation. We get 'the basics' from Dr. Karan on the status of space exploration, LunArc's key role, how she thinks about space exploration at a time of great polarization here on earth. Some serious wisdom is dropped about not just a future in space, but how to bridge divides here at home. 


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Today's episode is epic! Join guest Dr. Lakshmi Karan, alongside her fellow visionaries at LunArc, is pioneering a movement that reframes our approach to space travel. Their goal is to ensure that humanity's journey to the moon transcends mere technological achievement, becoming instead an exercise in cooperation, humility, and democratic participation. We get 'the basics' from Dr. Karan on the status of space exploration, LunArc's key role, how she thinks about space exploration at a time of great polarization here on earth. Some serious wisdom is dropped about not just a future in space, but how to bridge divides here at home. 


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]]> false full 19 1 <![CDATA[Truth Talk about Environmental Social Governance (ESG) & the Evolving Role of Business]]> In the latest episode of The Space in Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan delves into the controversial topics of Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) frameworks and the evolving role of businesses in society. Joined by guest Allison Taylor, a professor of practice at NYU Stern School of Business and an expert in business ethics, the conversation uncovers insightful perspectives on ESG including hopes and criticisms from both the left and the right, and the challenging nature of business ethics today. We also talk about Taylor's critically acclaimed book Higher Ground: How Business Can Do the Right Thing in a Turbulent World, which offers a roadmap for leaders to build ethical and profitable businesses.


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]]> Wed, 26 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 37:59 In the latest episode of The Space in Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan delves into the controversial topics of Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) frameworks and the evolving role of businesses in society. Joined by guest Allison Taylor, a professor of practice at NYU Stern School of Business and an expert in business ethics, the conversation uncovers insightful perspectives on ESG including hopes and criticisms from both the left and the right, and the challenging nature of business ethics today. We also talk about Taylor's critically acclaimed book Higher Ground: How Business Can Do the Right Thing in a Turbulent World, which offers a roadmap for leaders to build ethical and profitable businesses.


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]]> In the latest episode of The Space in Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan delves into the controversial topics of Environmental, Social, and Governance (ESG) frameworks and the evolving role of businesses in society. Joined by guest Allison Taylor, a professor of practice at NYU Stern School of Business and an expert in business ethics, the conversation uncovers insightful perspectives on ESG including hopes and criticisms from both the left and the right, and the challenging nature of business ethics today. We also talk about Taylor's critically acclaimed book Higher Ground: How Business Can Do the Right Thing in a Turbulent World, which offers a roadmap for leaders to build ethical and profitable businesses.


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]]> false full 18 1 <![CDATA[Bridging Political Divides: Insights from Former Wisconsin State Senator Joan Ballweg]]> In an era marked by heightened political polarization, how do we foster constructive dialogue and bipartisan collaboration? This question is at the heart of this episode of the "Space In Between" podcast, hosted by Leigh Morgan, where former Wisconsin Republican State Senator Joan Ballweg shares her experiences and insights after decades as an elected official. Known for being a pragmatic and principled public servant, Ballweg offers a refreshing perspective on the nuances of politics, her take on Republican and Democratic approaches to governance, and shares stories from a state known for bucking national political trends. 

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]]> Wed, 19 Feb 2025 15:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 49:50 In an era marked by heightened political polarization, how do we foster constructive dialogue and bipartisan collaboration? This question is at the heart of this episode of the "Space In Between" podcast, hosted by Leigh Morgan, where former Wisconsin Republican State Senator Joan Ballweg shares her experiences and insights after decades as an elected official. Known for being a pragmatic and principled public servant, Ballweg offers a refreshing perspective on the nuances of politics, her take on Republican and Democratic approaches to governance, and shares stories from a state known for bucking national political trends. 

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]]> In an era marked by heightened political polarization, how do we foster constructive dialogue and bipartisan collaboration? This question is at the heart of this episode of the "Space In Between" podcast, hosted by Leigh Morgan, where former Wisconsin Republican State Senator Joan Ballweg shares her experiences and insights after decades as an elected official. Known for being a pragmatic and principled public servant, Ballweg offers a refreshing perspective on the nuances of politics, her take on Republican and Democratic approaches to governance, and shares stories from a state known for bucking national political trends. 

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]]> false full 17 <![CDATA[The Taliban, Sisterhood, & Power of Education]]> In today’s episode, we delve into the remarkable and inspiring stories of two sisters, Farishta and Hakima Afzaly, who left Taliban-controlled Afghanistan in search of a better life. They are now powerful advocates for women's rights & they have a lot to say about the situation in their home country.  We learn about the harsh reality for women in Afghanistan, and especially for Shia Hazara women who face ethnic and religious persecution in addition to gender discrimination. They also share stories of resiliency, strength amidst harsh realities, and their love of Afghan culture.  The Afzaly sisters drop some serious wisdom about how to  advocate amidst division, the power of loving parents, and a reminder that individuals can make big change.

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]]> Wed, 12 Feb 2025 23:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 50:56 In today’s episode, we delve into the remarkable and inspiring stories of two sisters, Farishta and Hakima Afzaly, who left Taliban-controlled Afghanistan in search of a better life. They are now powerful advocates for women's rights & they have a lot to say about the situation in their home country.  We learn about the harsh reality for women in Afghanistan, and especially for Shia Hazara women who face ethnic and religious persecution in addition to gender discrimination. They also share stories of resiliency, strength amidst harsh realities, and their love of Afghan culture.  The Afzaly sisters drop some serious wisdom about how to  advocate amidst division, the power of loving parents, and a reminder that individuals can make big change.

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]]> In today’s episode, we delve into the remarkable and inspiring stories of two sisters, Farishta and Hakima Afzaly, who left Taliban-controlled Afghanistan in search of a better life. They are now powerful advocates for women's rights & they have a lot to say about the situation in their home country.  We learn about the harsh reality for women in Afghanistan, and especially for Shia Hazara women who face ethnic and religious persecution in addition to gender discrimination. They also share stories of resiliency, strength amidst harsh realities, and their love of Afghan culture.  The Afzaly sisters drop some serious wisdom about how to  advocate amidst division, the power of loving parents, and a reminder that individuals can make big change.

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]]> false full 16 1 <![CDATA[Leadership, Storytelling and AI in Turbulent Times]]> If there is one theme that animates across all #TheSpaceInBetween podcasts, it is the importance of storytelling for bridging divides and as a critical tool for effective leadership. In today's chaotic world, steady, high integrity leadership is of utmost importance. In this episode, we explore how leaders can harness storytelling to be their most powerful selves - and how to leverage AI tools to augment their impact. Guests MeiMei Fox, a NYT best-selling author, and Colleen Schell, founder of FABx, share incredible energy and insights from years as leaders, storytellers, and storytelling coaches. They drop some serious wisdom about the evolving role of AI, its impact on leadership and how all of us can be effective change agents in all parts of our lives. 

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]]> Tue, 04 Feb 2025 10:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 53:56 If there is one theme that animates across all #TheSpaceInBetween podcasts, it is the importance of storytelling for bridging divides and as a critical tool for effective leadership. In today's chaotic world, steady, high integrity leadership is of utmost importance. In this episode, we explore how leaders can harness storytelling to be their most powerful selves - and how to leverage AI tools to augment their impact. Guests MeiMei Fox, a NYT best-selling author, and Colleen Schell, founder of FABx, share incredible energy and insights from years as leaders, storytellers, and storytelling coaches. They drop some serious wisdom about the evolving role of AI, its impact on leadership and how all of us can be effective change agents in all parts of our lives. 

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]]> If there is one theme that animates across all #TheSpaceInBetween podcasts, it is the importance of storytelling for bridging divides and as a critical tool for effective leadership. In today's chaotic world, steady, high integrity leadership is of utmost importance. In this episode, we explore how leaders can harness storytelling to be their most powerful selves - and how to leverage AI tools to augment their impact. Guests MeiMei Fox, a NYT best-selling author, and Colleen Schell, founder of FABx, share incredible energy and insights from years as leaders, storytellers, and storytelling coaches. They drop some serious wisdom about the evolving role of AI, its impact on leadership and how all of us can be effective change agents in all parts of our lives. 

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]]> false full 15 1 <![CDATA[The Housing Crisis: What is Really Happening?]]> In today’s socio-political climate, spaces for open dialogue and constructive conversations are both rare and essential. In this episode of The Space In-Between podcast, I had the privilege of hosting Ashani O’Mard to discuss the affordable housing crisis in America. Drawing from her personal experiences and professional expertise as a national leader in housing, Ashani explains the key factors driving the lack of affordable housing and shares actionable ways the public and private sectors can collaborate to address this crisis.

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]]> Wed, 29 Jan 2025 12:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 46:41 In today’s socio-political climate, spaces for open dialogue and constructive conversations are both rare and essential. In this episode of The Space In-Between podcast, I had the privilege of hosting Ashani O’Mard to discuss the affordable housing crisis in America. Drawing from her personal experiences and professional expertise as a national leader in housing, Ashani explains the key factors driving the lack of affordable housing and shares actionable ways the public and private sectors can collaborate to address this crisis.

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]]> In today’s socio-political climate, spaces for open dialogue and constructive conversations are both rare and essential. In this episode of The Space In-Between podcast, I had the privilege of hosting Ashani O’Mard to discuss the affordable housing crisis in America. Drawing from her personal experiences and professional expertise as a national leader in housing, Ashani explains the key factors driving the lack of affordable housing and shares actionable ways the public and private sectors can collaborate to address this crisis.

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]]> false full 14 1 <![CDATA[Leadership that Matters: Working Across Public & Private Sectors]]> Today’s episode dives into the dynamic world of data and innovation and leadership lessons in bridging divides across sectors. Our guest, Ann Mei Chang, brings shares insights from her interesting career which spans Google, the U.S. State Department, US Agency for International Development (USAID), and her current role as CEO of Candid. We discuss workplace cultures, the challenges of leading change, and the importance of understanding motivations and incentives that shape organizational performance. We also explore how leaders can best bridge divides across dimensions of difference.  

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]]> Wed, 22 Jan 2025 16:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 47:10 Today’s episode dives into the dynamic world of data and innovation and leadership lessons in bridging divides across sectors. Our guest, Ann Mei Chang, brings shares insights from her interesting career which spans Google, the U.S. State Department, US Agency for International Development (USAID), and her current role as CEO of Candid. We discuss workplace cultures, the challenges of leading change, and the importance of understanding motivations and incentives that shape organizational performance. We also explore how leaders can best bridge divides across dimensions of difference.  

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]]> Today’s episode dives into the dynamic world of data and innovation and leadership lessons in bridging divides across sectors. Our guest, Ann Mei Chang, brings shares insights from her interesting career which spans Google, the U.S. State Department, US Agency for International Development (USAID), and her current role as CEO of Candid. We discuss workplace cultures, the challenges of leading change, and the importance of understanding motivations and incentives that shape organizational performance. We also explore how leaders can best bridge divides across dimensions of difference.  

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]]> false full 13 1 <![CDATA[Demystifying Public Health - And Why It Matters for Mental Health]]> Today’s podcast explores our mental health from a public health perspective, and how, in a post-COVID world, we can avoid reaching polarizing ‘boiling points’ and reduce the experience of isolation and fragmentation across communities.  Host Leigh Morgan explores this topic in-depth with a an internationally recognized global leader and expert, Dr. Dani Fallin, who is Dean of the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University. Dr. Fallon defines what a population approach to mental health is, and how it helps us understand the how polarization starts and is amplified across society. She also shares specific strategies to build stronger, sustainable connections across dimensions of difference. 

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]]> Wed, 15 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 50:44 Today’s podcast explores our mental health from a public health perspective, and how, in a post-COVID world, we can avoid reaching polarizing ‘boiling points’ and reduce the experience of isolation and fragmentation across communities.  Host Leigh Morgan explores this topic in-depth with a an internationally recognized global leader and expert, Dr. Dani Fallin, who is Dean of the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University. Dr. Fallon defines what a population approach to mental health is, and how it helps us understand the how polarization starts and is amplified across society. She also shares specific strategies to build stronger, sustainable connections across dimensions of difference. 

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]]> Today’s podcast explores our mental health from a public health perspective, and how, in a post-COVID world, we can avoid reaching polarizing ‘boiling points’ and reduce the experience of isolation and fragmentation across communities.  Host Leigh Morgan explores this topic in-depth with a an internationally recognized global leader and expert, Dr. Dani Fallin, who is Dean of the Rollins School of Public Health at Emory University. Dr. Fallon defines what a population approach to mental health is, and how it helps us understand the how polarization starts and is amplified across society. She also shares specific strategies to build stronger, sustainable connections across dimensions of difference. 

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]]> false full 12 1 <![CDATA[Beyond the Hype: Navigating the Complexities of Immigration]]> In the increasingly polarized discourse on immigration, it is essential to create spaces where nuanced and insightful conversations can thrive. In this episode, we delve into the complex realities of immigration in the U.S. with Maggie Mitchell Salem, the Executive Director of IRIS and a leading expert in the field. We explore the misconceptions, realities, challenges, opportunities, and the evolving landscape of immigration, while offering a hopeful perspective on how to navigate difficult conversations around this topic.

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]]> Wed, 08 Jan 2025 10:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 51:16 In the increasingly polarized discourse on immigration, it is essential to create spaces where nuanced and insightful conversations can thrive. In this episode, we delve into the complex realities of immigration in the U.S. with Maggie Mitchell Salem, the Executive Director of IRIS and a leading expert in the field. We explore the misconceptions, realities, challenges, opportunities, and the evolving landscape of immigration, while offering a hopeful perspective on how to navigate difficult conversations around this topic.

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]]> In the increasingly polarized discourse on immigration, it is essential to create spaces where nuanced and insightful conversations can thrive. In this episode, we delve into the complex realities of immigration in the U.S. with Maggie Mitchell Salem, the Executive Director of IRIS and a leading expert in the field. We explore the misconceptions, realities, challenges, opportunities, and the evolving landscape of immigration, while offering a hopeful perspective on how to navigate difficult conversations around this topic.

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]]> false full 11 1 <![CDATA[Bridging Divides Through Food]]> This podcast features Mary S. Moore, a global leader in the culinary and housewares sector. Moore and host Leigh Morgan explore food's role as an expression of cultural heritage and a conduit for creating connections across diverse communities. Through personal stories and insights, Moore illustrates how shared culinary experiences can build understanding in our often-divided world. The conversation also addresses critical challenges in our food system, including declining food quality, limited access to healthy options, and the health impacts of increased processed food consumption. Moore concludes with practical guidance for bringing people together through food, regardless of their background or circumstances.

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]]> Thu, 19 Dec 2024 02:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 37:00 This podcast features Mary S. Moore, a global leader in the culinary and housewares sector. Moore and host Leigh Morgan explore food's role as an expression of cultural heritage and a conduit for creating connections across diverse communities. Through personal stories and insights, Moore illustrates how shared culinary experiences can build understanding in our often-divided world. The conversation also addresses critical challenges in our food system, including declining food quality, limited access to healthy options, and the health impacts of increased processed food consumption. Moore concludes with practical guidance for bringing people together through food, regardless of their background or circumstances.

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]]> This podcast features Mary S. Moore, a global leader in the culinary and housewares sector. Moore and host Leigh Morgan explore food's role as an expression of cultural heritage and a conduit for creating connections across diverse communities. Through personal stories and insights, Moore illustrates how shared culinary experiences can build understanding in our often-divided world. The conversation also addresses critical challenges in our food system, including declining food quality, limited access to healthy options, and the health impacts of increased processed food consumption. Moore concludes with practical guidance for bringing people together through food, regardless of their background or circumstances.

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]]> false full 10 1 <![CDATA[An Oath to the Constitution: Lessons from a Female Attack Helicopter Pilot]]> In this episode of the Space In Between podcast, host Leigh Morgan speaks with retired Major Hartleigh Caine about her experience in the Army and what it means to take an oath to support the Constitution in a world that can often feel divisive and lacking unity. Major Caine, an Apache attack helicopter pilot and decorated combat veteran, shares her remarkable journey from West Point to Iraq and Afghanistan, along with the many lessons she has learned about bringing men and women from diverse backgrounds together in highly stressful and often dangerous circumstances. She also discusses navigating her role as one of the very few female commanders and pilots in two wartime settings and shares rationale for her belief that the military’s oath and mission-based orientation will continue to transcend the political divides that too often dominate today’s culture.


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]]> Wed, 11 Dec 2024 10:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 41:20 In this episode of the Space In Between podcast, host Leigh Morgan speaks with retired Major Hartleigh Caine about her experience in the Army and what it means to take an oath to support the Constitution in a world that can often feel divisive and lacking unity. Major Caine, an Apache attack helicopter pilot and decorated combat veteran, shares her remarkable journey from West Point to Iraq and Afghanistan, along with the many lessons she has learned about bringing men and women from diverse backgrounds together in highly stressful and often dangerous circumstances. She also discusses navigating her role as one of the very few female commanders and pilots in two wartime settings and shares rationale for her belief that the military’s oath and mission-based orientation will continue to transcend the political divides that too often dominate today’s culture.


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]]> In this episode of the Space In Between podcast, host Leigh Morgan speaks with retired Major Hartleigh Caine about her experience in the Army and what it means to take an oath to support the Constitution in a world that can often feel divisive and lacking unity. Major Caine, an Apache attack helicopter pilot and decorated combat veteran, shares her remarkable journey from West Point to Iraq and Afghanistan, along with the many lessons she has learned about bringing men and women from diverse backgrounds together in highly stressful and often dangerous circumstances. She also discusses navigating her role as one of the very few female commanders and pilots in two wartime settings and shares rationale for her belief that the military’s oath and mission-based orientation will continue to transcend the political divides that too often dominate today’s culture.


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]]> false full 9 1 <![CDATA[Media: The Good, the Bad, and What Is To Come with Journalist Arjun Singh]]> In this episode of the Space In Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan discusses the evolving landscape of media with award-winning journalist and podcast producer, Arjun Singh. They explore the reasons for the dramatic decline in trust with traditional media, the rise of ideologically inspired media platforms, and how media eco-chambers fuel the proliferation of division. Singh emphasizes the concept of fairness over objectivity in journalism, and the challenges traditional media face in adapting to the digital era. 

They also address issues like low news literacy among the public and the importance of consuming news from multiple sources to get a balanced perspective. Singh shares his personal approach to journalism centered on overtly sharing his biases, and engaging with subjects of his reporting from a place of  empathy and respect. He also explains the distinction between empathy and sympathy and how to hold firm to one's values while also finding connection with people who hold different views. 

Lastly, Singh finds hope in the public's curiosity and desire to learn, which suggests that people are still invested in understanding the world around them.

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]]> Wed, 04 Dec 2024 10:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 49:49 In this episode of the Space In Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan discusses the evolving landscape of media with award-winning journalist and podcast producer, Arjun Singh. They explore the reasons for the dramatic decline in trust with traditional media, the rise of ideologically inspired media platforms, and how media eco-chambers fuel the proliferation of division. Singh emphasizes the concept of fairness over objectivity in journalism, and the challenges traditional media face in adapting to the digital era. 

They also address issues like low news literacy among the public and the importance of consuming news from multiple sources to get a balanced perspective. Singh shares his personal approach to journalism centered on overtly sharing his biases, and engaging with subjects of his reporting from a place of  empathy and respect. He also explains the distinction between empathy and sympathy and how to hold firm to one's values while also finding connection with people who hold different views. 

Lastly, Singh finds hope in the public's curiosity and desire to learn, which suggests that people are still invested in understanding the world around them.

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]]> In this episode of the Space In Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan discusses the evolving landscape of media with award-winning journalist and podcast producer, Arjun Singh. They explore the reasons for the dramatic decline in trust with traditional media, the rise of ideologically inspired media platforms, and how media eco-chambers fuel the proliferation of division. Singh emphasizes the concept of fairness over objectivity in journalism, and the challenges traditional media face in adapting to the digital era. 

They also address issues like low news literacy among the public and the importance of consuming news from multiple sources to get a balanced perspective. Singh shares his personal approach to journalism centered on overtly sharing his biases, and engaging with subjects of his reporting from a place of  empathy and respect. He also explains the distinction between empathy and sympathy and how to hold firm to one's values while also finding connection with people who hold different views. 

Lastly, Singh finds hope in the public's curiosity and desire to learn, which suggests that people are still invested in understanding the world around them.

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]]> false full 7 1 <![CDATA[Truth Talk About Crime]]> In this episode of The Space in Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan explores perceptions and misconceptions about crime with her guest, Durham County, NC District Attorney Satana Deberry.  They discuss innovative, local strategies to improve public safety, support victims, hold offenders accountable, uplift communities and reduce systemic inequities. Along the way, DA Deberry gets right to the hard  in her signature plain spoken, authentic and direct manner.

Deberry shares her insights on the role of a district attorney, the truth about crime rates and importance of addressing what drives most crimes: substance abuse and mental health issues. They also examine reforms to the bail system and the reintegration of individuals with suspended driver’s licenses to prevent the perpetuation of crime cycles. Throughout the episode, they emphasize the need for comprehensive, community-driven approaches to public safety and the role of empathy and listening in achieving these goals.

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]]> Wed, 20 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 48:17 In this episode of The Space in Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan explores perceptions and misconceptions about crime with her guest, Durham County, NC District Attorney Satana Deberry.  They discuss innovative, local strategies to improve public safety, support victims, hold offenders accountable, uplift communities and reduce systemic inequities. Along the way, DA Deberry gets right to the hard  in her signature plain spoken, authentic and direct manner.

Deberry shares her insights on the role of a district attorney, the truth about crime rates and importance of addressing what drives most crimes: substance abuse and mental health issues. They also examine reforms to the bail system and the reintegration of individuals with suspended driver’s licenses to prevent the perpetuation of crime cycles. Throughout the episode, they emphasize the need for comprehensive, community-driven approaches to public safety and the role of empathy and listening in achieving these goals.

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]]> In this episode of The Space in Between Podcast, host Leigh Morgan explores perceptions and misconceptions about crime with her guest, Durham County, NC District Attorney Satana Deberry.  They discuss innovative, local strategies to improve public safety, support victims, hold offenders accountable, uplift communities and reduce systemic inequities. Along the way, DA Deberry gets right to the hard  in her signature plain spoken, authentic and direct manner.

Deberry shares her insights on the role of a district attorney, the truth about crime rates and importance of addressing what drives most crimes: substance abuse and mental health issues. They also examine reforms to the bail system and the reintegration of individuals with suspended driver’s licenses to prevent the perpetuation of crime cycles. Throughout the episode, they emphasize the need for comprehensive, community-driven approaches to public safety and the role of empathy and listening in achieving these goals.

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]]> false full 6 1 <![CDATA[Reclaiming Public Schools: One Principled School Mom at a Time]]> Hyper-polarization has permeated many public schools, creating divisions and diverting focus from providing quality education, supporting students, and ensuring that teachers have the resources they need to do their best work. In this discussion, we speak with award-winning journalist and author Laura Pappano, who sheds light on ideological battles taking place in rural, politically conservative districts and shares inspiring stories of principled 'school moms' who are working to save public education from extremism. We also examine how rural communities foster unity even in times of deep, local division, offering examples that can inspire communities everywhere.

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]]> Wed, 13 Nov 2024 09:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 47:46 Hyper-polarization has permeated many public schools, creating divisions and diverting focus from providing quality education, supporting students, and ensuring that teachers have the resources they need to do their best work. In this discussion, we speak with award-winning journalist and author Laura Pappano, who sheds light on ideological battles taking place in rural, politically conservative districts and shares inspiring stories of principled 'school moms' who are working to save public education from extremism. We also examine how rural communities foster unity even in times of deep, local division, offering examples that can inspire communities everywhere.

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]]> Hyper-polarization has permeated many public schools, creating divisions and diverting focus from providing quality education, supporting students, and ensuring that teachers have the resources they need to do their best work. In this discussion, we speak with award-winning journalist and author Laura Pappano, who sheds light on ideological battles taking place in rural, politically conservative districts and shares inspiring stories of principled 'school moms' who are working to save public education from extremism. We also examine how rural communities foster unity even in times of deep, local division, offering examples that can inspire communities everywhere.

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]]> false full 5 1 <![CDATA[Tackling Climate Change: A Futurist's Perspective on Resilient Impact]]> UPDATE In this episode of the "Space in Between" podcast, host Leigh Morgan interviews innovation strategist and futurist Zenia Tata on tackling global challenges like climate change through innovative strategies that change hearts and minds.  Zenia introduces us to the concept of the "long future," encouraging us to think beyond immediate solutions and consider the implications of our actions on future generations. Resilience, she explains, is the key to navigating the challenges that lie ahead. 

By focusing on creating climate solutions grounded in diverse perspectives, science, and collaborating across dimensions of difference, Zenia emphasizes the importance of both thinking and acting like an ancestor and, practicality, in driving meaningful progress.

The conversation explores what a futurist is and how collaborating with diverse communities and a grounded, visionary mindset fosters creative solutions to climate change. The discussion emphasizes our responsibility to future generations and technological advancements that build resilience to a rapidly changing planet.

Tata shares insights from her work at XPRIZE, highlighting efforts to help map the Amazon region and the significance of methane reduction and capture. The episode underscores the importance of collaboration, personal networks, and using the STEEP framework (Social, Technological, Ecological, Economic, Political) for impactful problem-solving. Listeners are provided with tools to foster deep connections in ways that foster innovation and sustained impact over time.  

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]]> Wed, 06 Nov 2024 11:00:00 -0800 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 41:00 UPDATE In this episode of the "Space in Between" podcast, host Leigh Morgan interviews innovation strategist and futurist Zenia Tata on tackling global challenges like climate change through innovative strategies that change hearts and minds.  Zenia introduces us to the concept of the "long future," encouraging us to think beyond immediate solutions and consider the implications of our actions on future generations. Resilience, she explains, is the key to navigating the challenges that lie ahead. 

By focusing on creating climate solutions grounded in diverse perspectives, science, and collaborating across dimensions of difference, Zenia emphasizes the importance of both thinking and acting like an ancestor and, practicality, in driving meaningful progress.

The conversation explores what a futurist is and how collaborating with diverse communities and a grounded, visionary mindset fosters creative solutions to climate change. The discussion emphasizes our responsibility to future generations and technological advancements that build resilience to a rapidly changing planet.

Tata shares insights from her work at XPRIZE, highlighting efforts to help map the Amazon region and the significance of methane reduction and capture. The episode underscores the importance of collaboration, personal networks, and using the STEEP framework (Social, Technological, Ecological, Economic, Political) for impactful problem-solving. Listeners are provided with tools to foster deep connections in ways that foster innovation and sustained impact over time.  

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]]> UPDATE In this episode of the "Space in Between" podcast, host Leigh Morgan interviews innovation strategist and futurist Zenia Tata on tackling global challenges like climate change through innovative strategies that change hearts and minds.  Zenia introduces us to the concept of the "long future," encouraging us to think beyond immediate solutions and consider the implications of our actions on future generations. Resilience, she explains, is the key to navigating the challenges that lie ahead. 

By focusing on creating climate solutions grounded in diverse perspectives, science, and collaborating across dimensions of difference, Zenia emphasizes the importance of both thinking and acting like an ancestor and, practicality, in driving meaningful progress.

The conversation explores what a futurist is and how collaborating with diverse communities and a grounded, visionary mindset fosters creative solutions to climate change. The discussion emphasizes our responsibility to future generations and technological advancements that build resilience to a rapidly changing planet.

Tata shares insights from her work at XPRIZE, highlighting efforts to help map the Amazon region and the significance of methane reduction and capture. The episode underscores the importance of collaboration, personal networks, and using the STEEP framework (Social, Technological, Ecological, Economic, Political) for impactful problem-solving. Listeners are provided with tools to foster deep connections in ways that foster innovation and sustained impact over time.  

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]]> false full 4 1 <![CDATA[Goodbye Status Quo: How Innovation & Empathy Transforms Divides]]> This episode of  'The Space in Between Podcast' features an in-depth discussion with  Dr. Joan Fallon, delving into her incredible journey from a healthcare professional caring for kids with autism, to a biotech CEO and now author of the critically acclaimed book "Goodbye Status Quo: Reimagining the Landscape of Innovation". The conversation explores how principles of innovation, empathy, and the concept of 'space in between' itself - can be applied to societal issues including the evolving, post-COVID workplace norms, understanding the rural-urban divide, and overcoming resistance to change during a hyper partisan election season.  The podcast is fascinating, fun, and offers practical tools to think differently about the status quo. 

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]]> Wed, 30 Oct 2024 10:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 46:24 This episode of  'The Space in Between Podcast' features an in-depth discussion with  Dr. Joan Fallon, delving into her incredible journey from a healthcare professional caring for kids with autism, to a biotech CEO and now author of the critically acclaimed book "Goodbye Status Quo: Reimagining the Landscape of Innovation". The conversation explores how principles of innovation, empathy, and the concept of 'space in between' itself - can be applied to societal issues including the evolving, post-COVID workplace norms, understanding the rural-urban divide, and overcoming resistance to change during a hyper partisan election season.  The podcast is fascinating, fun, and offers practical tools to think differently about the status quo. 

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]]> This episode of  'The Space in Between Podcast' features an in-depth discussion with  Dr. Joan Fallon, delving into her incredible journey from a healthcare professional caring for kids with autism, to a biotech CEO and now author of the critically acclaimed book "Goodbye Status Quo: Reimagining the Landscape of Innovation". The conversation explores how principles of innovation, empathy, and the concept of 'space in between' itself - can be applied to societal issues including the evolving, post-COVID workplace norms, understanding the rural-urban divide, and overcoming resistance to change during a hyper partisan election season.  The podcast is fascinating, fun, and offers practical tools to think differently about the status quo. 

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]]> false full 3 1 <![CDATA[The Story Cure: How Telling Your Story Can Heal the World]]> This podcast episode, inspired by bestselling author Mei Mei Fox's TEDx talk "How Storytelling Can Heal Trauma and Our Divided World," delves into the transformational impact of storytelling in bridging divides at personal, organizational, and global levels.  Host Leigh Morgan and guest Mei Mei Fox discuss how both telling and listening to stories can form new neural connections and promote connection and understanding across many dimensions of difference. 

The conversation highlights what Fox calls the "Story Cure" and its central role in fostering empathy and bonding, which serves as a foundation for creativity and problem-solving. They also consider the dangers associated with the "Story Curse" and how fear-based social media algorithms can amplify divisiveness and polarization.

They dive into the influence of technology, ethical leadership in digital spaces, and how storytelling helped Rwanda transform deep trauma from genocide into a more united national culture. These and other real-world examples underscore the transformative power of sharing personal narratives. 

Morgan and Fox end with specific tools listeners can use to amplify the benefits of storytelling to heal the world. These tools include asking someone "What's your story?", taking five minutes a day to journal, and as leaders, encouraging teams to share stories to unlock creative problem-solving.

Connect with MeiMei Fox:
Website and watch her TEDx talk 



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]]> Wed, 23 Oct 2024 10:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 41:12 This podcast episode, inspired by bestselling author Mei Mei Fox's TEDx talk "How Storytelling Can Heal Trauma and Our Divided World," delves into the transformational impact of storytelling in bridging divides at personal, organizational, and global levels.  Host Leigh Morgan and guest Mei Mei Fox discuss how both telling and listening to stories can form new neural connections and promote connection and understanding across many dimensions of difference. 

The conversation highlights what Fox calls the "Story Cure" and its central role in fostering empathy and bonding, which serves as a foundation for creativity and problem-solving. They also consider the dangers associated with the "Story Curse" and how fear-based social media algorithms can amplify divisiveness and polarization.

They dive into the influence of technology, ethical leadership in digital spaces, and how storytelling helped Rwanda transform deep trauma from genocide into a more united national culture. These and other real-world examples underscore the transformative power of sharing personal narratives. 

Morgan and Fox end with specific tools listeners can use to amplify the benefits of storytelling to heal the world. These tools include asking someone "What's your story?", taking five minutes a day to journal, and as leaders, encouraging teams to share stories to unlock creative problem-solving.

Connect with MeiMei Fox:
Website and watch her TEDx talk 



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]]> This podcast episode, inspired by bestselling author Mei Mei Fox's TEDx talk "How Storytelling Can Heal Trauma and Our Divided World," delves into the transformational impact of storytelling in bridging divides at personal, organizational, and global levels.  Host Leigh Morgan and guest Mei Mei Fox discuss how both telling and listening to stories can form new neural connections and promote connection and understanding across many dimensions of difference. 

The conversation highlights what Fox calls the "Story Cure" and its central role in fostering empathy and bonding, which serves as a foundation for creativity and problem-solving. They also consider the dangers associated with the "Story Curse" and how fear-based social media algorithms can amplify divisiveness and polarization.

They dive into the influence of technology, ethical leadership in digital spaces, and how storytelling helped Rwanda transform deep trauma from genocide into a more united national culture. These and other real-world examples underscore the transformative power of sharing personal narratives. 

Morgan and Fox end with specific tools listeners can use to amplify the benefits of storytelling to heal the world. These tools include asking someone "What's your story?", taking five minutes a day to journal, and as leaders, encouraging teams to share stories to unlock creative problem-solving.

Connect with MeiMei Fox:
Website and watch her TEDx talk 



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]]> false full 1 1 <![CDATA[Navigating the Intersection of Identity, Culture, and Politics]]> This episode of 'The Space in Between' podcast, hosted by Leigh Morgan, features in-depth discussions on the diverse experiences and evolving roles of Southeast Asian and Indian communities in the United States. Leigh's guest is noted tech executive Lakshmi Nidamarthi, whose incredible life and career has given her a unique perspective on this topic. Their conversation explores the themes of immigration, cultural barriers and similarities, the pursuit of the 'American dream' and the rise of Kamala Harris, Niki Haley and other influential politicians with Indian heritage. 

Their conversation also delves into the political impact and growing visibility of Indian Americans, and the broad diversity of views and opinions within that community. They also explore Lakshmi's compelling immigration story and the intersectionality across race, ethnic, and other identities including the importance of representation and active engagement in fostering democracy and inclusive dialogues. Their conversation underscores the need for understanding and connecting with others amidst a polarized societal landscape.

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]]> Wed, 23 Oct 2024 08:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 41:06 This episode of 'The Space in Between' podcast, hosted by Leigh Morgan, features in-depth discussions on the diverse experiences and evolving roles of Southeast Asian and Indian communities in the United States. Leigh's guest is noted tech executive Lakshmi Nidamarthi, whose incredible life and career has given her a unique perspective on this topic. Their conversation explores the themes of immigration, cultural barriers and similarities, the pursuit of the 'American dream' and the rise of Kamala Harris, Niki Haley and other influential politicians with Indian heritage. 

Their conversation also delves into the political impact and growing visibility of Indian Americans, and the broad diversity of views and opinions within that community. They also explore Lakshmi's compelling immigration story and the intersectionality across race, ethnic, and other identities including the importance of representation and active engagement in fostering democracy and inclusive dialogues. Their conversation underscores the need for understanding and connecting with others amidst a polarized societal landscape.

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]]> This episode of 'The Space in Between' podcast, hosted by Leigh Morgan, features in-depth discussions on the diverse experiences and evolving roles of Southeast Asian and Indian communities in the United States. Leigh's guest is noted tech executive Lakshmi Nidamarthi, whose incredible life and career has given her a unique perspective on this topic. Their conversation explores the themes of immigration, cultural barriers and similarities, the pursuit of the 'American dream' and the rise of Kamala Harris, Niki Haley and other influential politicians with Indian heritage. 

Their conversation also delves into the political impact and growing visibility of Indian Americans, and the broad diversity of views and opinions within that community. They also explore Lakshmi's compelling immigration story and the intersectionality across race, ethnic, and other identities including the importance of representation and active engagement in fostering democracy and inclusive dialogues. Their conversation underscores the need for understanding and connecting with others amidst a polarized societal landscape.

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]]> false full 2 1 <![CDATA[Introduction to The Space In Between Podcast with Leigh Morgan]]> Hello, and welcome to The Space in Between podcast. I'm your host Leigh Morgan.  This podcast is for listeners who are fed up with the hyper-polarized. nature of the world today - and who crave spaces where current events can be discussed in constructive, enlightening and delightful ways. 

My guests will be some of the world's most interesting and curious leaders, influencers, and change makers from very diverse backgrounds. This year we tackle super hard issues and launch a 'Leadership that Matters' series with guests who have a delightful mix of confidence, humility, and practical advice for how all of us can better navigate today's increasingly fragmented and sometimes chaotic world.  

I'd love to hear from you!  Please leave a review wherever you listen to the podcast, via the Space in Between podcasts website, or on LinkedIn. 

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]]> Mon, 21 Oct 2024 21:00:00 -0700 https://spaceinbetweenpodcast.com/ 1:14 Hello, and welcome to The Space in Between podcast. I'm your host Leigh Morgan.  This podcast is for listeners who are fed up with the hyper-polarized. nature of the world today - and who crave spaces where current events can be discussed in constructive, enlightening and delightful ways. 

My guests will be some of the world's most interesting and curious leaders, influencers, and change makers from very diverse backgrounds. This year we tackle super hard issues and launch a 'Leadership that Matters' series with guests who have a delightful mix of confidence, humility, and practical advice for how all of us can better navigate today's increasingly fragmented and sometimes chaotic world.  

I'd love to hear from you!  Please leave a review wherever you listen to the podcast, via the Space in Between podcasts website, or on LinkedIn. 

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]]> Hello, and welcome to The Space in Between podcast. I'm your host Leigh Morgan.  This podcast is for listeners who are fed up with the hyper-polarized. nature of the world today - and who crave spaces where current events can be discussed in constructive, enlightening and delightful ways. 

My guests will be some of the world's most interesting and curious leaders, influencers, and change makers from very diverse backgrounds. This year we tackle super hard issues and launch a 'Leadership that Matters' series with guests who have a delightful mix of confidence, humility, and practical advice for how all of us can better navigate today's increasingly fragmented and sometimes chaotic world.  

I'd love to hear from you!  Please leave a review wherever you listen to the podcast, via the Space in Between podcasts website, or on LinkedIn. 

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